Freelander 2 - Thoughts?

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Martin Coombs

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #1

Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
From what I have seen on their website looks good.
No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the D3
when its time to change cars next spring.

MC

 

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Neil Brownlee

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #2

It's actually a mundano.....

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Nige

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #3

"Martin Coombs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
> From what I have seen on their website looks good.
> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the D3
> when its time to change cars next spring.
>
> MC
>

With every new car they further from the original idea! But i'm sure it will
be a winner with it. I dont like the look of it BTW.

Nige

 

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Matthew Maddock

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #4

Nige wrote:
> "Martin Coombs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
>> From what I have seen on their website looks good.
>> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the D3
>> when its time to change cars next spring.
>>
>> MC
>>
>
> With every new car they further from the original idea! But i'm sure it will
> be a winner with it. I dont like the look of it BTW.

Aww come on Nige - it looks better than the last one! (mind you that
isn't saying much!) although the back looks a bit too much J$$p Grand
Cherokee for my liking.

Tho why anyone would consider a F/lander against a D3 I'm not sure.
They are miles apart - especially in price!

Matt

 

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Martin Coombs

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #5

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Nige wrote:
>> "Martin Coombs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
>>> From what I have seen on their website looks good.
>>> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the
>>> D3 when its time to change cars next spring.
>>>
>>> MC
>>>
>>
>> With every new car they further from the original idea! But i'm sure it
>> will be a winner with it. I dont like the look of it BTW.
>
> Aww come on Nige - it looks better than the last one! (mind you that
> isn't saying much!) although the back looks a bit too much J$$p Grand
> Cherokee for my liking.
>
> Tho why anyone would consider a F/lander against a D3 I'm not sure.
> They are miles apart - especially in price!
>
> Matt

Price is important, D3 has moved the Disco further upmarket into Range Rover
territory and Ranger Rover has moved into a super 4x4 category.
I know there are lots more bells and whistles, but to stay with the model
mark when I trade in my D2 TD5, it will be effectively an extra £10k more.
The Freelander now being a bit bigger may well be a more cost effective
solution.
Just my thoughts.

MC

 

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Dave Liquorice

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #6

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:57:02 +0100, Martin Coombs wrote:

> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.

Current Freelander is a winner?

> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the
> D3 when its time to change cars next spring.

Unless they have upped the head room by a couple of inches I'll prefer
the D3. In the current Freelander there is about 1" between by skull and
the headlining, have a bad hair day and it's very irritating.

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Matthew Maddock

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #7

> Price is important, D3 has moved the Disco further upmarket into Range Rover
> territory and Ranger Rover has moved into a super 4x4 category.
> I know there are lots more bells and whistles, but to stay with the model
> mark when I trade in my D2 TD5, it will be effectively an extra £10k more.
> The Freelander now being a bit bigger may well be a more cost effective
> solution.
> Just my thoughts.

That's what I was trying to say - the D3 is now so expensive that
you can hardly compare D3 and F/lander prices - for one that isn't
a real bargain basement model it must be £35k+ for a D3 now,
Whereas the FL is what - £25k? for a top of the range model - not
even remotely comparable in price. I guess from my point of
view, if I could afford a D3 I wouldn't even consider the F/lander,
and if I could afford a F/lander I'd probably be looking to another
manufacturer (sadly) for something that offers better value. Not
that I'm in a position to afford either, but there you go!!

Matt

 

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William Tasso

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #8

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:56:55 +0100, Dave Liquorice <[email protected]>
wrote:

> ...
> In the current Freelander there is about 1" between by skull and
> the headlining, have a bad hair day and it's very irritating.

Bah - some of us don't have that much hair to fret over.

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William Tasso

110 V8

 

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Nige

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #9

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>> Price is important, D3 has moved the Disco further upmarket into Range
>> Rover territory and Ranger Rover has moved into a super 4x4 category.
>> I know there are lots more bells and whistles, but to stay with the model
>> mark when I trade in my D2 TD5, it will be effectively an extra £10k
>> more.
>> The Freelander now being a bit bigger may well be a more cost effective
>> solution.
>> Just my thoughts.
>
> That's what I was trying to say - the D3 is now so expensive that
> you can hardly compare D3 and F/lander prices - for one that isn't
> a real bargain basement model it must be £35k+ for a D3 now,
> Whereas the FL is what - £25k? for a top of the range model - not
> even remotely comparable in price. I guess from my point of
> view, if I could afford a D3 I wouldn't even consider the F/lander,
> and if I could afford a F/lander I'd probably be looking to another
> manufacturer (sadly) for something that offers better value. Not
> that I'm in a position to afford either, but there you go!!
>
> Matt

I doubt i'll ever buy a new car again anyway, i love my older cars, you can
fix them yourself, you get so much more for your money & they are just so
naff it's almost cool!!!

 

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Ian Rawlings

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #10

On 2006-06-26, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

> I doubt i'll ever buy a new car again anyway, i love my older cars, you can
> fix them yourself, you get so much more for your money & they are just so
> naff it's almost cool!!!

New cars are ****.

Can't put it fairer than that ;-)

£5K for a comfy mile-eater that does 47MPG, £8K for a good condition
Defender 110, £7K for a six-wheeled monster, £12K for a plastic
rocketship, grand total for that lot is £32K which is quite a bit
(quite scarily, surprisingly much in fact), but that's spread over 6
years and would buy me a new Freelander. No thanks!

Depreciation stacks up well too, rocket ship has lost about £1K tops,
pinz won't drop to less than I paid for it (jammy deal), Audi and
Landy have lost £2-3K each.

Mind you, that's a lot of loot spent on cars, anyone want to buy a
Defender 110?

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Dave Liquorice

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #11

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:31:31 +0100, William Tasso wrote:

> Bah - some of us don't have that much hair to fret over.

Don't worry I won't have in a few years time. Much recession and thinning
going on...

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Andy MacKinnon

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #12

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:57:02 +0100, Martin Coombs wrote:

> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
> From what I have seen on their website looks good.
> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the D3
> when its time to change cars next spring.
>
> MC

I'm intrigued... with no transfer box why would you want one? OK, so it's
LR's entry into the RAV4 market but surely it's a Chelsea Tractor (or
Toorak Taxi!) and not exactly designed for serious fourby work?

Or have I missed the point and LR have suddenly seen the light and
produced a smallish 4x4 with a transfer box and serious go anywhere
aspirations????
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Tim Hobbs

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• Jun 26, 2006

• #13

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:31:08 GMT, Andy MacKinnon
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:57:02 +0100, Martin Coombs wrote:
>
>> Looks like Landrover could have another winner.
>> From what I have seen on their website looks good.
>> No idea on pricing but I will give it serious consideration against the D3
>> when its time to change cars next spring.
>>
>> MC
>
>I'm intrigued... with no transfer box why would you want one? OK, so it's
>LR's entry into the RAV4 market but surely it's a Chelsea Tractor (or
>Toorak Taxi!) and not exactly designed for serious fourby work?
>
>Or have I missed the point and LR have suddenly seen the light and
>produced a smallish 4x4 with a transfer box and serious go anywhere
>aspirations????

Yes, it's a Chelsea Tractor. From a commercial perspective it will be
a roaring success, neatly answering the major shortcomings of the
current model.

Within limits of ground clearance the current model is actually very
good in many off-road applications, particularly those most often
encountered by Chelsea Tractor drivers - wet grass, snow, ice etc.
Useless in deep ruts, but pretty good (and user friendly) in many
situations.

If everyone wanted a Defender, LR would only build Defenders.

Why do you pin so much importance on a transfer box?

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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
'06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck"