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DanClarke

DanClarke

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The 22yo 2.5l Tdi '90 failed the MOT in a major way today :(
Not enough room on the form for all the faults it seems...the last few were written in biro...
Mostly around worn bushes/pins etc. in front & rear suspension arms/shocks and some steering components.
Also failed on emissions (not surprising as the exhaust apparently has a "Major-Leak") and I have always thought exhaust faults really screwed with emmissions tests.

I expected a bigger than average bill to get it through the MOT but an estimate of 1500 -2500 seems a bit steep to me, and I can't afford it.
So I might have to SORN/SCRAP it. At least it did not fail on chassis-rot.
In my youth I would have had a go myself but age & poor health makes it a bit tough to contemplate.

Anyone know much it should cost to have all the bushes (suspension & steering) replaced, rather than this wild estimate from my garage?

The exhaust & the emissions is a gamble, fix the exhaust and remove the air-filter might do the trick....who knows?

Real shame, it's been fun to ride.
 
DanClarke said:
The 22yo 2.5l Tdi '90 failed the MOT in a major way today :(
Not enough room on the form for all the faults it seems...the last few were written in biro...
Mostly around worn bushes/pins etc. in front & rear suspension arms/shocks and some steering components.
Also failed on emissions (not surprising as the exhaust apparently has a "Major-Leak") and I have always thought exhaust faults really screwed with emmissions tests.

I expected a bigger than average bill to get it through the MOT but an estimate of 1500 -2500 seems a bit steep to me, and I can't afford it.
So I might have to SORN/SCRAP it. At least it did not fail on chassis-rot.
In my youth I would have had a go myself but age & poor health makes it a bit tough to contemplate.

Anyone know much it should cost to have all the bushes (suspension & steering) replaced, rather than this wild estimate from my garage?

The exhaust & the emissions is a gamble, fix the exhaust and remove the air-filter might do the trick....who knows?

Real shame, it's been fun to ride.
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Nowt that cant be fixed then:)
 
Its the bushes that are time consuming. You could change springs nad shocks over in a day. steering wont take long, not much to it. If you do the bushes you could fit poly ones which just push in.

Do it bit at a time over the winter?

If you give a more comprehensive list (break it down) Im sure we could give you a time and cost of parts. then you know what a garage would charge OR how long it will take you ;)

G
 
Like Griff said, a complete list will help, steering bushes would take good weekends work tbh, cost shouldn't be that much tbh, a complete polybush kit costs under £100, even the steering components won't be a major amount ( £225 for reconcile steering box and that's the most expensive part )

Sort the list out, let us know
 
Damn phone, spelling fooked...

Being in Essex mate, we have a fair few members over there, I believe Oldskool rents out garage space & lifts at his garage anorl.
 
Griffdowg said:
Its the bushes that are time consuming. You could change springs nad shocks over in a day. steering wont take long, not much to it. If you do the bushes you could fit poly ones which just push in.

Do it bit at a time over the winter?

If you give a more comprehensive list (break it down) Im sure we could give you a time and cost of parts. then you know what a garage would charge OR how long it will take you ;)

G
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Many thanks for the views and offer of assistance, here is the list:

1.
Landy%20fail%20001.jpg
Offside (steering box drop-arm) Ball-joint has excessive play.
2. N/S/F Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
3. O/S/F Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
4. N/S/R Shock Absorber has and excessively worn rubber bush.
5. O/S/R Shock Absorber has and excessively worn rubber bush.
6. O/S/R Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
7. N/S/R Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
8. Steering System has excessive "free-play" detected at the steering wheel (Steering box fitted).

All greek to me, I just drive it :-S
 
DanClarke said:
Many thanks for the views and offer of assistance, here is the list:

1.
Landy%20fail%20001.jpg
Offside (steering box drop-arm) Ball-joint has excessive play.
2. N/S/F Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
3. O/S/F Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
4. N/S/R Shock Absorber has and excessively worn rubber bush.
5. O/S/R Shock Absorber has and excessively worn rubber bush.
6. O/S/R Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
7. N/S/R Suspension Arm has excessive plaqy in a pin/bush.
8. Steering System has excessive "free-play" detected at the steering wheel (Steering box fitted).

All greek to me, I just drive it :-S
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1. can be a bugger to do but the repair kit is pretty cheap

2,3,4,5,6,7 polybush kit solves these problems ;)

8 you may be able to take the slack out by ajustng it although it may be being caused by your drop arm balljoint
 
G-man said:
1. can be a bugger to do but the repair kit is pretty cheap

2,3,4,5,6,7 polybush kit solves these problems ;)

8 you may be able to take the slack out by ajustng it although it may be being caused by your drop arm balljoint
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Number one can be repaired, but from what i researched, the repair kits have a tendency to fail again, resulting in doing it again, rinse n repeat etc, Recon kits come with 12 month warranty, imho it's worth swapping the whole box for a recon and be done with it.

Not sure about 8, could be like G says, the other stuff is sorted with a polybush kit.

Overall you're looking at ( let's say you go for a recon steering box ) about £300 ( although deciding on number 8, needs someone to look at it, add a little more )

Polybush's are easily fitted, but with a vehicle of your age it could a pain to get all the old ones out, time consuming abit but worth it. Try and go for the original polybush kit ( £98 ) or the Deflex kit which is cheaper (£60+) and can be got from paddocks i think ( Paddocks.com)

Your looking at a good weekends work and less than £500 including parts to pay someone on here to do it for ya :p:D
 
redhand said:
Yep but ya get £100 back for ya old unit so £109 :doh:
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Um no mate, the £100 ( exc VAT ) is added onto the price if ya don't bring your unit in for the exchange, believe me i know, i thought the same till i turned up with £100 short of getting the recon box.
 
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