Fitting Security Locks....

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charlesteton said:
Don't know if its pointless... Pointless is doing nothing to a vehicle which has so many known security flaws. If all the doors are locked tight with none standard deadbolts, yes they could smash a window but there is more risk in doing so. They might be scum but they ate not stupid,
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+1 you also have to wake up to the fact that most landies are stolen by other landy owners. for spares or the bolt on goodies. So they know that a set of doors with deadlocks fitted, can't be sold on or used on their own landy. Because they would be too noticeable. So anything that makes your parts stand out or more recognisable is going to make them go elsewhere.
 
Dan_Trials said:
Another thought I had, how unique are the keys? I remember reading about a company that were selling van vaults, they were buying in the lock barrels and ended up with ones where the key shape repeats every 500 or so units. Some boys working for a council could open each others tool boxes. Heard about it with pad locks too.
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I've called the manufactures of a lock I have and yes they are repeated every 500 but a thief goes to that extent then they will get it anyway. Lots of thieves seen to be opportunists and don't want to get caught with 500+ keys on them. Then there are the multiple types of locks and padlocks, so you can multiply the 500 by another 500, for the true amount of keys they would probably need. :)
 
charlesteton said:
I've called the manufactures of a lock I have and yes they are repeated every 500 but a thief goes to that extent then they will get it anyway. Lots of thieves seen to be opportunists and don't want to get caught with 500+ keys on them. Then there are the multiple types of locks and padlocks, so you can multiply the 500 by another 500, for the true amount of keys they would probably need. :)
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Yeah I know, and like you say if they are going to that extent they will get it anyway. Although I have actually seen a guy with probably about half a dozen Ford keys going round a multi storey car park trying them in all the Ford vehicles.
 
you cant stop the determined thief, all you can do is make another rover seem an easier target.... I rather like the fact some people think extra security is pointless, means they probably own a vehicle that is of more appeal than mine to a thief :)

yes they could break a window, still cant open the doors though so awkward to scramble through a window but not impossible, then they could spend time angle grinding off my full metal jacket pedal enclosure, and cutting off the disklock, then bypass the various solenoid immobilisers, cut their way into the secure sealed box that houses a gps / gsm tracker, disable the alarm and slash the brake pipes as they will be hydraulically locked on....


or steal the one 100m further on that has no security cos theres no point :) lol

if they do get mine then hat off to them cos I really cant do much more lol

cheers steve
 
ebbadger said:
you cant stop the determined thief, all you can do is make another rover seem an easier target.... I rather like the fact some people think extra security is pointless, means they probably own a vehicle that is of more appeal than mine to a thief :)

yes they could break a window, still cant open the doors though so awkward to scramble through a window but not impossible, then they could spend time angle grinding off my full metal jacket pedal enclosure, and cutting off the disklock, then bypass the various solenoid immobilisers, cut their way into the secure sealed box that houses a gps / gsm tracker, disable the alarm and slash the brake pipes as they will be hydraulically locked on....


or steal the one 100m further on that has no security cos theres no point :) lol

if they do get mine then hat off to them cos I really cant do much more lol

cheers steve
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That's quite some setup you got there! Meanwhile mine is never locked, sometimes I leave it in the field out of view of the house and sometimes forget to take the key out (when parked at home). Island life has it's advantages :p
 
interesting spreadsheet, good to see the number of attempts thwarted when thieves found a pedal lock or disklock and shows how poor the factory set up is, im guessing the vast number of 'owner yet to provide security details' are probably nothing and the owners have realised the error

cheers steve
 
charlesteton said:
Here Trax, enclose link to LandyWatch's database of all the reported Defender's stolen in the last year and the additional security they did not have, chilling reading:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...-qdGZmN0s3SDJTcm5OcG9tQXJfZEVPeGc&output=html
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I'm not against doing it, I'm just wondering how effective it is.

The gangs are pretty sophisticated. Looking at that spreadsheet, they overcome alarms, imobs, chained to fire-escapes, trackers. I can't see them caring about stronger lock, especially as they will know about it when they plan how to steal it.

Sure, for joy riders.. but a disklock would do that anyway.

As to moving onto easier targets.. I'd have thought that would only work if there are a lot of same spec landies in the area or if you have stuck enough security on yours that it makes it not worth the effort for the value of the it.

But I live in the countryside, so I'm probably overlooking something. Out here no vehicle security would really stop someone. They could come and lift it and take it away to a barn and work on it at leisure.
 
The standard alarm / immobiliser is very easily bypassed, they make up the vast majority on the spreadsheet that do have details... what the spreadsheet cannot show or even hazard a guess at is how many owners do have additional security that has deterred thieves from the outset.

I suppose we can never guess at how many landys have been checked out and the potential thief walk away due to the security...

Gotta admit the fire escape one does go to prove they will get it if they want but very few on the list have seen deadbolts or disklocks defeated and we will probably never know the additional factors on those few... ie was the Landy in a very isolated place etc

I personally prefer knowing I have done my bit to at least dissuade the odd joyrider / ramraider / opportunist and that even the die hard thief will have a job on their hands.... :)

Cheers Steve
 
Might be worth adding a couple of these on the hinge side especially on the rear door. Stops it being lifted off if the hinges are removed.
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I ordered the locks off using the link shown in the thread they arrived 36 hours later. I think I'll have to fit them to the body and get the pin to go into the door.
It amused me on those Amazon reiviews some one saying you need an unusually large drill bit of 12/13 mm. I've got up to an inch ( for metal) and much larger for wood . And I've used up to 2.5 inch metal At a steam railway.
I'm sure many of you regard 13 mm as standard.
 
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