First impressions...........P38 style!!!

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Nige

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Of my new toy after a 450 mile journey today.

Firstly, it is very comfy, very comfy indeed, drives like a new car too.

It does not pickup like the RRC LSE though, must be a weight thing, the V8 is a bit 'muted' compared to
the growl from Bob! It doesn't corner as flat either, but it does drive very nicely indeed.

Nothing broke, no cracked liners or overheating, no fuss at all! (apart from a very embarrassing episode
trying to find opener for petrol flap!!!!!)

The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A
road (100m) & M-way (120m) jaunt (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise & got 23.8mpg,
on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot & got 25.3mpg !!!

I didn't go over 70mph, as it was busy as feck!! I think that is bloody good as these are very similar to
the trip computer results too.

Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!

Nige

--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!

You need a new mobile phone to go with it, Nige... :)

 
....and Nige spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> I didn't go over 70mph, as it was busy as feck!! I think that is
> bloody good as these are very similar to the trip computer results
> too.

I always found the trip computer was a little pessimistic. Perhaps 1 mpg.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
> The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A
> road (100m) & M-way (120m) jaunt (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise & got 23.8mpg,
> on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot & got 25.3mpg !!!

Good to know you like your new toy, overall I'd agree with your
assessment - I love mine, especially for my long distance traveling,
it is just so easy to do my regular near 1000 mile round trips.

One note about the petrol flap - if ever it won't open, check that
you haven't left the key in the ignition - it won't open unless
the key is out.

Given your MPG I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my
DSE. Best I've ever got is 26.5 (mine's a manual), and that was
taking things easy on some nice flat and straight French roads
Average is 22.5, pretty much no matter what sort of driving
I do, though I do tend to cruise at 80. Any ideas anyone?
injectors??

Matt.
 
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!
>
> You need a new mobile phone to go with it, Nige... :)

I got one, the reception is a bit **** though!

Must be one of those new 'wafer' thin phones!

Nige

--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A
>road (100m) & M-way (120m) jaunt (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise & got 23.8mpg,
>on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot & got 25.3mpg !!!
>
>Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!

Bloody hell. I drive a car with less than half that engine capacity
(2L) and only get 25mpg out of it on petrol.

I must not use this a reason to justify driving a v8..

 
On 2006-01-13, Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> I must not use this a reason to justify driving a v8..

Take four of the plugs out!

"But think of the money we'd save!"

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Tom Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was
>> expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A road (100m) & M-way (120m)
>> jaunt (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise &
>> got 23.8mpg, on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot
>> & got 25.3mpg !!!
>>
>> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!
>
> Bloody hell. I drive a car with less than half that engine capacity
> (2L) and only get 25mpg out of it on petrol.
>
> I must not use this a reason to justify driving a v8..

I aint used it round town yet!!!

Seriously, my WRX only does a max of 26-27 !!

--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
Nige wrote:
> Tom Woods wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was
>>> expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A road (100m) & M-way (120m)
>>> jaunt (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise &
>>> got 23.8mpg, on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot
>>> & got 25.3mpg !!!
>>>
>>> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!
>> Bloody hell. I drive a car with less than half that engine capacity
>> (2L) and only get 25mpg out of it on petrol.
>>
>> I must not use this a reason to justify driving a v8..
>
> I aint used it round town yet!!!
>
> Seriously, my WRX only does a max of 26-27 !#!

I think you'll probably find that the MPG goes down as you get
used to using it. Mine started out pretty high (compared to what
it is now!) for the first few days as I was taking it easy, but
then ended up where it is now. Still think there might be
something a bit wrong with mine as it is pretty low for a diesel.

Matt.
 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Of my new toy after a 450 mile journey today.
>
> Firstly, it is very comfy, very comfy indeed, drives like a new car too.
>
> It does not pickup like the RRC LSE though, must be a weight thing, the V8
> is a bit 'muted' compared to the growl from Bob! It doesn't corner as flat
> either, but it does drive very nicely indeed.
>
> Nothing broke, no cracked liners or overheating, no fuss at all! (apart
> from a very embarrassing episode trying to find opener for petrol
> flap!!!!!)
>
> The main surprise for me was the fuel economy, after the LSE I was
> expecting 15-17mpg even on a steady A road (100m) & M-way (120m) jaunt
> (each way ;~() I drove it all the way there on the cruise & got 23.8mpg,
> on the way back I used a very tame right steel toe boot & got 25.3mpg !!!
>
> I didn't go over 70mph, as it was busy as feck!! I think that is bloody
> good as these are very similar to the trip computer results too.
>
> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!

Yep, but it's a well known fact that the management system on these runs
extremely lean at cruise to give economy - at the expense of cylinder
temperature, which is said to promote the block cracking issue. Not proven,
mind, that's just RPI's take on it, my personal opinion is that the block
runs too hot regardless and really ought to have an 82 degree 'stat fitted,
but nobody makes one for the P38. Also make sure top hose isn't collapsing
internally, landrover have changed the design spec 3 times already.....
Nice motors though, wouldn't have one personally as I like my DII too much.
:)
Badger.
>
> Nige
>
> --
> Subaru WRX
> Range Rover LSE (Bob)
>
> '"gimme the f*ckin' money"
>


 
On or around Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:34:37 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!
>>
>> You need a new mobile phone to go with it, Nige... :)
>
>I got one, the reception is a bit **** though!
>
>Must be one of those new 'wafer' thin phones!

Just got a motorola V600. dead nice phone, and since they're not cutting
edge any more and don't take videos etc., they're starting to come down to a
reaonable price: 26 quid odd plus a fiver postage, this one.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
On or around Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:44:55 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-01-13, Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I must not use this a reason to justify driving a v8..
>
>Take four of the plugs out!
>
>"But think of the money we'd save!"

Didn't someone (Chevy?) produce one that drops to 4 cylinders when under
light load?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
On 2006-01-13, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Didn't someone (Chevy?) produce one that drops to 4 cylinders when under
> light load?

Yes, later versions of the small-block chevvy V8 can drop to 4
cylinders, but I think it's not to save fuel, it happens when the
engine gets too hot so it starts pumping air through it to cool down.
I'd imagine that it could be possible to also try to save fuel using
that feature but AFAIK it's not the original intent, they are American
after all!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:34:37 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:02:06 -0000, "Nige"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not too bad for a 4.6 HSE!
>>>
>>> You need a new mobile phone to go with it, Nige... :)
>>
>> I got one, the reception is a bit **** though!
>>
>> Must be one of those new 'wafer' thin phones!
>
> Just got a motorola V600. dead nice phone, and since they're not
> cutting edge any more and don't take videos etc., they're starting to
> come down to a reaonable price: 26 quid odd plus a fiver postage,
> this one.

I have a Sony K750i for work, the 2mp camera comes in useful for taking condition pics for work etc!

It also works as a good phone too!

Nige


--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
On or around Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:20:34 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-01-13, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Didn't someone (Chevy?) produce one that drops to 4 cylinders when under
>> light load?
>
>Yes, later versions of the small-block chevvy V8 can drop to 4
>cylinders, but I think it's not to save fuel, it happens when the
>engine gets too hot so it starts pumping air through it to cool down.
>I'd imagine that it could be possible to also try to save fuel using
>that feature but AFAIK it's not the original intent, they are American
>after all!

nah, twas about meeting some federal emissions requirement. I had in mind
that there was a V16 that did the same trick, but I forget whose.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
 
On or around Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:41:53 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Nice motors though, wouldn't have one personally as I like my DII too much.

in JVL yesterday was ogling a very smart black RR sport. I have to say,
it's a lovely-looking thing. Not exactly an off-roader, mind, but I'd
prefer it to the Porsche Cayenne, given the sort of money that justified
either.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
 
On 2006-01-15, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> nah, twas about meeting some federal emissions requirement. I had in mind
> that there was a V16 that did the same trick, but I forget whose.

There's an article on the newer small-blocks on this URL;

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0405htp_ls2/

They reckon it is to save "gas" although I have to take that with a
pinch of salt ;-) They reckon it switches to 4-cylinder mode when
under light load and saves about 8% of fuel on average, although
there's no mention of how that figure's calculated.

I'd read elsewhere that it drops into this mode when the engine gets
too hot, perhaps it's one of those "all of the above" answers as they
all make sense.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
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