Easy repair?

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Nige

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• Jan 22, 2006

• #1

P38 lower tailgate, as new but has a hole cut below number plate for
reverse camera (Yeah, i know!)My mates brother has a bodyshop so the
painting etc will be ok.I though of either leaving it there (ugly)or
getting it sorted (gawd knows)

The reason I ask is I'm winning a tailgate on eBay for next to nowt with
this in it. It will cost me £60 for it painting up right & it's got NO
corrosion of any kind.

My mind would be some kind of patch from behind & thenm filler! Any
reason why not?

Nige

 

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William Tasso

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• Jan 22, 2006

• #2

Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

> P38 lower tailgate, as new but has a hole cut below number plate for
> reverse camera (Yeah, i know!)My mates brother has a bodyshop so the
> painting etc will be ok.I though of either leaving it there (ugly)or
> getting it sorted (gawd knows)
>
> The reason I ask is I'm winning a tailgate on eBay for next to nowt with
> this in it. It will cost me £60 for it painting up right & it's got NO
> corrosion of any kind.
>
> My mind would be some kind of patch from behind & thenm filler! Any
> reason why not?

How big is the hole?

blind rivet (+ washer?)
domed bolt (+ washer?)

stick on a something

if it's too big for those - wire mesh/gauze and resin (possibly + fibre
matting) from the back makes a decent base for a top skim of body filler.

--
William Tasso

 

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Nige

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #3

William Tasso wrote:
> Nige <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> P38 lower tailgate, as new but has a hole cut below number plate for
>> reverse camera (Yeah, i know!)My mates brother has a bodyshop so the
>> painting etc will be ok.I though of either leaving it there (ugly)or
>> getting it sorted (gawd knows)
>>
>> The reason I ask is I'm winning a tailgate on eBay for next to nowt
>> with this in it. It will cost me £60 for it painting up right & it's
>> got NO corrosion of any kind.
>>
>> My mind would be some kind of patch from behind & thenm filler! Any
>> reason why not?
>
> How big is the hole?
>
> blind rivet (+ washer?)
> domed bolt (+ washer?)
>
> stick on a something
>
> if it's too big for those - wire mesh/gauze and resin (possibly + fibre
> matting) from the back makes a decent base for a top skim of body filler.
>
> --William Tasso

About 15mm diameter, the reason i am asking is the ****wit didnt
advertise that in his auction, but told me just as i'm about to win! I
can't retract my bid & he can neg me. But in fairness, if the things Ok
other than that I aint that bothered as it's MEGA cheap for a good one
anyway.

Nige

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #4

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:

> About 15mm diameter, the reason i am asking is the ****wit didnt
> advertise that in his auction, but told me just as i'm about to win! I
> can't retract my bid & he can neg me. But in fairness, if the things
> Ok other than that I aint that bothered as it's MEGA cheap for a good
> one anyway.
>
> Nige

Land rover Badge?

Flame thrower....

Extingisher recharger oulet point ;-)

Lee D


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Derek

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• Jan 22, 2006

• #5

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> P38 lower tailgate, as new but has a hole cut below number plate for
> reverse camera (Yeah, i know!)My mates brother has a bodyshop so the
> painting etc will be ok.I though of either leaving it there (ugly)or
> getting it sorted (gawd knows)
>
> The reason I ask is I'm winning a tailgate on eBay for next to nowt with
> this in it. It will cost me £60 for it painting up right & it's got NO
> corrosion of any kind.
>
> My mind would be some kind of patch from behind & thenm filler! Any reason
> why not?
>
> Nige
I should hope if its going into a body shop they will sort it in a heartbeat
and quite cheaply . Patch and fill jobs are second nature to the body
specialists and they will get a very much better repair than the avearge
DIYer in a lot less time .
If you want to do it yourself bridging filler applied to the back of the
panel (once cleaned to bright metal around the hole and roughened to give a
good key) will fill the hole and a skim of fine body filler on the outer
surface to complete the repair the difficult bit is getting the repair
perfectly flat and without
any pinhole bubbles to spoil the job .
Or put a nice LRO sticker over the hole.
Derek

 

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Tom Woods

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• Jan 22, 2006

• #6

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:15:19 +0000, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

>About 15mm diameter, the reason i am asking is the ****wit didnt
>advertise that in his auction, but told me just as i'm about to win! I
>can't retract my bid & he can neg me. But in fairness, if the things Ok
>other than that I aint that bothered as it's MEGA cheap for a good one
>anyway.

Is there no way of retracting bids without feedback if tis not as
advertised? That could be quite a significant thing to miss out of the
description.

 

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #7

....and Tom Woods spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:15:19 +0000, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> About 15mm diameter, the reason i am asking is the ****wit didnt
>> advertise that in his auction, but told me just as i'm about to win!
>> I can't retract my bid & he can neg me. But in fairness, if the
>> things Ok other than that I aint that bothered as it's MEGA cheap
>> for a good one anyway.
>
> Is there no way of retracting bids without feedback if tis not as
> advertised? That could be quite a significant thing to miss out of the
> description.

I had this problem a while ago - there was a thread about it on here.
Basically, eBay will not allow you to retract bids within a certain period
(12/24hrs?) of the end of the auction, however bad the mis-description of
the item - something to do with discouraging bid shielding. However, they
informed me that although my bid could not be retracted, they would not
expect me to go through with the purchase if the item was significantly "not
as described", and would support me if I withdrew from the transaction and
the seller tried to kick up a fuss.

As it happened, the seller was a nice chap (mis-description was a genuine
mistake) and offered me the chance to withdraw. I didn't, and ended up with
a superb roof rack - but for the Disco, not the S2a.

--
Rich
==============================

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

 

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Badger

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #8

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> P38 lower tailgate, as new but has a hole cut below number plate for
> reverse camera (Yeah, i know!)My mates brother has a bodyshop so the
> painting etc will be ok.I though of either leaving it there (ugly)or
> getting it sorted (gawd knows)
>
> The reason I ask is I'm winning a tailgate on eBay for next to nowt with
> this in it. It will cost me £60 for it painting up right & it's got NO
> corrosion of any kind.
>
> My mind would be some kind of patch from behind & thenm filler! Any reason
> why not?

Forget filler in a hole on a flat panel, it will crack with the natural
vibrations. If the hole is only 15mm, cut a round patch and tig weld it in,
buff down any proud weld and then a thin skin of filler to restore surface
to smooth will be fine.
Badger.

 

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Steve

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #9

Badger wrote:

If the hole is only 15mm, cut a round patch and tig weld it in,
> buff down any proud weld and then a thin skin of filler to restore surface
> to smooth will be fine.

Inset flush, or a surface patch ?

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #10

Steve <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Badger wrote:
>
> If the hole is only 15mm, cut a round patch and tig weld it in,
>> buff down any proud weld and then a thin skin of filler to restore
>> surface to smooth will be fine.
>
> Inset flush, or a surface patch ?
>
> Steve

I'd go for inset flush if only to deter any damp from festering in this
already weak spot as far as rust in concerned.

Lee.
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Steve

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #11

Lee_D wrote:

> I'd go for inset flush if only to deter any damp from festering in this
> already weak spot as far as rust in concerned.

It'd have to be the right way to do it, but a complete bugger to do.
I'd have to really practice to weld something that thin, on manky steel,
with my TIG. How thick is it ??? Might make an interesting test piece.

Steve

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #12

Steve <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Lee_D wrote:
>
>> I'd go for inset flush if only to deter any damp from festering in
>> this already weak spot as far as rust in concerned.
>
> It'd have to be the right way to do it, but a complete bugger to do.
> I'd have to really practice to weld something that thin, on manky
> steel, with my TIG. How thick is it ??? Might make an interesting
> test piece.
> Steve

Surely not that tough. I've done it in the past with a hole on a curve
(front aerial hole on the door pillar / bulkhead of a VW bug) once ground
back and filed it didn't need filler

In this case I'd spend ages getting the insert bob on.. then use a large
magnet to hold it in place, weld away, Grind it.. skim... then paint it with
a roller before applying the GB sticker ;-)

Lee

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jan 22, 2006

• #13

On or around Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:15:19 +0000, Nige <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>About 15mm diameter, the reason i am asking is the ****wit didnt
>advertise that in his auction, but told me just as i'm about to win! I
>can't retract my bid & he can neg me. But in fairness, if the things Ok
>other than that I aint that bothered as it's MEGA cheap for a good one
>anyway.

I think you'll find that you're within your rights to refuse to complete and
/or withdraw bids if the description is factually incorrect.
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