DVLA requirements to register replacement chassis and engine
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You are in a world of hurt right now.
Its probably a TD5 defender with a 1987 body put on. (now I wont say the TD5 was probably stolen).
What were you told when you brought it?
Have you just brought it?
Private or trade?
Oh an welcome
to the pitfall's of buying not knowing.
J
Its probably a TD5 defender with a 1987 body put on. (now I wont say the TD5 was probably stolen).
What were you told when you brought it?
Have you just brought it?
Private or trade?
Oh an welcome
to the pitfall's of buying not knowing.J
Other than the reg plate what else makes you think it is an '87 not a td5? Although anything can be changed there are some bodywork differences that you would not bother changing unless you had a whole donor vehicle. I assume the rear tub is a td5 tub as the filler will be in a different position for the rear mounted tank to the original?
Throw some pictures up (everyone like pictures) and the collective wisdom on here will be able to see which parts of the vehicle are '87 or if it is more likely, as indicated above, that is is just a complete td5 that has been ringed onto and older plate.
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Did you know what you were buying?
I would be getting my money back if I was you.
I would be getting my money back if I was you.
Hicap phill
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Post seperate photo of the front,drives side & passenger side
Most will be able to tell what the body is off
Most will be able to tell what the body is off
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If Chassis, engine is TD5 then likely the rest of the running gear is as well. Where is the reverse gear found, up to the left [ 87model ] or down to right ?
If the chassis, engine and running gear are all td5, it is likely the whole vehicle is and therefore the only thing that is '87 is the reg plate. in which case you have a whole world of issues, cannot register unless on a Q as a "new" vehicle and should follow the advice above of getting your money back.
However there is the possibility that everything is 87 other than the chassis and engine which is why I suggested some pics. To put a td5 engine into an '87 chassis is huge task, to fit '87 running gear and body to a new td5 chassis is easier.
Which brings up a separate question is the chassis a new galvanised replacement or is the chassis an old chassis? can you find a chassis number on it, again some pics of the area would be good.
To answer your question about reverse an '87 will run an LT77 which is up and left. A td5 however will have an r380 which is down and right. If it has a td5 engine I would assume it has a later gearbox as well so reverse will be down and right.
Easiest way to get some answers are to put up as many pictures as you can of the exterior, interior, engine bay, and underside as possible.
Thanks for info, bought it April 2023, did not discover problem until I sold it on Ebay and buyer had problem insuring it, gave him his deposit back (May 2024) It must have a TD5 body as tank is at back, gearchange right/ back. Vin plate matches log book but from whayt I can read of chassis number, not correct. Do not know what to do/
Find a VIN decoder online and determine what the VIN actually relates to.
But it does sound like you brought a dodgy 1.
I suspect it will decode as a 1987 but it’s really a TD5 which is why the chassis number has been obscured.
There are not many options open to you now.
J
But it does sound like you brought a dodgy 1.
I suspect it will decode as a 1987 but it’s really a TD5 which is why the chassis number has been obscured.
There are not many options open to you now.
J
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Hicap phill
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Here’s a few things…
If you have a good receipt when you purchased this motor it may help.
Have you got any info still from the advert?
Look for an engine number & see if it matches the log book…
Now if you have all this(may be a mad idea) but get in touch with dvla for an inspection.
As it’s a galv chasssis no numbers will be found.
Engine/gearbox/transfer/axles should have numbers. If these are found to be non stolen
They may issue a Q plate
But there will be a lot of questions.
If any of these parts flag up as stolen you will loose the the motor
Good luck.
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Doh…. Just re read the first part…
Now for the bad news for the OP.. if the dvla/vosa suspect this motor of been stolen they will cut that jacking point where the numbers are & retrive them off the inside. Yep the stamping goes that deep.
Oh & if they don’t find that 1 there are others
& no I’m not saying where they are ….
This will be important thing for you depending on what is found with more investigation. If you have the details of your purchase it might not help you keep the vehicle if it does come back as stolen but it can prove you bought in good faith and are not the one who stole it!
|Does this mean you can read the chassis number or there is no chassis number? IF you can read the chassis number you may be able to correctly register against that chassis number as long as it is not scrapped, written off to a non-rebuild category, or stolen. If the chassis number comes back as one of those categories unfortunately there is not a lot you can do. If the chassis number has been tampered with it is over to what @Hicap phill says above regarding dlva/vosa inspection.
Unfortunately as the vin plate is just rivetted onto the brake pedal for these the vin plate doe snot mean that much.
Thanks for feedback, have receipt for sale but can longer trace previous owner. Engine number appears to be stamped1AXA RECON, chassis is not galvanised and cannot read all of chassis nuumber. Looks like I need the good luck
