Driving lamps UK

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Larry

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• Jun 27, 2004

• #1

Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
landie.

I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack, but
these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

 

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Paul Everett

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #2

Larry wrote:
> Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
> landie.
>
> I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack, but
> these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?

Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.

Source: http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
and more specifically:
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm

The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
declares that "any number may be fitted".

That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.

Paul

--
Paul Everett
repton at repton dot org
http://www.repton.org/

 

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ady

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #3

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
> landie.
>
> I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack,
but
> these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?
>
>
> --
> Larry
> Series 3 rust and holes
>
>

I got mine wired through a relay so they only come on with main beam

Ady

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #4

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:56:49 +0100, Paul Everett
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Larry wrote:
>> Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
>> landie.
>>
>> I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack, but
>> these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?
>
>Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
>headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
>dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
>number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.
>
>Source: http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
>and more specifically:
>http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm
>
>The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
>bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
>declares that "any number may be fitted".
>
>That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.


you're only allowed 2 dipped ones, but as many spotlamps as you want
provided they a) go off when you switch to dipped beam and b) don;t shine
backwards when the vehicle is in motion.

white worklights are acceptable ont he back but shouldn't work with the
vehicle in motion.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

 

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Larry

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #5

I had suspected something like that, I had intended to wire them to a relay
operated off the dip beam.

Incidentally the main beam was not working tonight anyway, the wire has come
adrift from the switch and seeing as the connection is a soldered one the
best I could do is wrap it round the joint and crimp it with a pair of
pliars in the absence of having a power supply for a soldering iron.


--
þT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"



"Paul Everett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry wrote:
> Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
> headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
> dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
> number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.
>
> Source:
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
> and more specifically:
> http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm
>
> The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
> bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
> declares that "any number may be fitted".
>
> That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Paul Everett
> repton at repton dot org
> http://www.repton.org/

 

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Neil Brownlee

Guest

• Jun 28, 2004

• #6

That would explain why I've never failed an MOT with my rooflights
<glee>

--
Nelly
http://www.pigletv8i.org.uk

 

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Neil Brownlee

Guest

• Jun 28, 2004

• #7

That would explain why I've never failed an MOT with my rooflights
<glee>

--
Nelly
http://www.pigletv8i.org.uk

 

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Paul Everett

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #8

Larry wrote:
> Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
> landie.
>
> I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack, but
> these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?

Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.

Source: http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
and more specifically:
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm

The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
declares that "any number may be fitted".

That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.

Paul

--
Paul Everett
repton at repton dot org
http://www.repton.org/

 

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Larry

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #9

I had suspected something like that, I had intended to wire them to a relay
operated off the dip beam.

Incidentally the main beam was not working tonight anyway, the wire has come
adrift from the switch and seeing as the connection is a soldered one the
best I could do is wrap it round the joint and crimp it with a pair of
pliars in the absence of having a power supply for a soldering iron.


--
þT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"



"Paul Everett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry wrote:
> Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
> headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
> dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
> number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.
>
> Source:
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
> and more specifically:
> http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm
>
> The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
> bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
> declares that "any number may be fitted".
>
> That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Paul Everett
> repton at repton dot org
> http://www.repton.org/

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Jun 27, 2004

• #10

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:56:49 +0100, Paul Everett
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Larry wrote:
>> Does anyone know the legalities of fitting driving/spot lamps on a vintage
>> landie.
>>
>> I see lots of them around with a whole array of lamps on the roof rack, but
>> these would be illegal to use on road I guess ?
>
>Technically as long as they dip automatically when you dip your
>headlights they're legal, as while there is a maximum height for your
>dipped beam lights (1200mm), there is no maximum height or maximum
>number of lights that are on when you're on main beam.
>
>Source: http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm
>and more specifically:
>http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm
>
>The relevant parts of the latter page being secion 10(a) which is the
>bit about going off when you dip your headlights and "Part II" which
>declares that "any number may be fitted".
>
>That's my interpretation, anyway. IANAL.


you're only allowed 2 dipped ones, but as many spotlamps as you want
provided they a) go off when you switch to dipped beam and b) don;t shine
backwards when the vehicle is in motion.

white worklights are acceptable ont he back but shouldn't work with the
vehicle in motion.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25