Done everything but still nothing

big dave2 said:

Ps the old girls done 110,000 mls engines never bin touched . Damn ive put the scud on it now, buggar !!!!!!

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as you was trying to help if anything goes wrong you can have mine (please)

Its a deal but only if u fix all eas probs n heavac,n the anti lock brakes warning lights o and the dent in the back bumper !!!!!!! But it shines nice

big dave2 said:

Its a deal but only if u fix all eas probs n heavac,n the anti lock brakes warning lights o and the dent in the back bumper !!!!!!! But it shines nice

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and thats just the prob with yours, i dont need to repair mine to do i

so does anyone recommend changing heater plugs or that waste

skippy22 said:

so does anyone recommend changing heater plugs or that waste

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Here's my handle on it, heater plugs have fokal to do with it if it is hot, sounds like you are losing fuel pressure, ie running back because of a bad connection or faulty pump, or lift pump.

You then need to crank the bastid for ages to get the fuel back up before it fires. If the filter has the centre o ring missing or damaged this is a classic example of this fault.

Anyway if you can connect a can to the system with fuel in it then you can rule out bits from the filter to the tank. Then you just fook about with the bits from filter to the injector pump and so on.

Aint fuel leaking through the lift pump into the oil is it.

david451 said:

Here's my handle on it, heater plugs have fokal to do with it if it is hot, sounds like you are losing fuel pressure, ie running back because of a bad connection or faulty pump, or lift pump.

You then need to crank the bastid for ages to get the fuel back up before it fires. If the filter has the centre o ring missing or damaged this is a classic example of this fault.

Anyway if you can connect a can to the system with fuel in it then you can rule out bits from the filter to the tank. Then you just fook about with the bits from filter to the injector pump and so on.

Aint fuel leaking through the lift pump into the oil is it.

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I agree about the glowplugs not relevant to hot starting. Just been looking at RAVE and the alternator controls when the fuel pump runs! Just to throw in another variable.

Extract from RAVE

Charging System
When the Ignition Switch (X274) is in position II, the
BeCM (Z238) turns the charge warning light on via
the datalink connection to the Instrument Pack
(Z142)
When the Generator (Z106) starts to produce power,
the BeCM (Z238) gets an input signal on Pin 15 and
turns off the charge warning light.
For the Diesel engine this signal is also used as an
input signal for the fuel pump relay inside the Engine
Compartment Fusebox (P125) to make sure that the
Fuel Pump (M109) is only supplied with power when
the engine is running.If the Generator (Z106) fails to produce power, the
charge warning light remains illuminated.

skippy22 said:

how much for your battery, i was given the link i listed by few people on this forum who said its good for dse's

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I'd be look for 60 quid, depends on far you would have to travel to collect it.

right i had it checked today battery is ok, starter is ok, all leak off pipes are ok tested all the way to filter, so i put new ngk heater plugs in and its still the same but if i do the glow plugs 3 times it fires strait up (with old lot 3 times helped but still took 3 or 4 seconds), was told its prob air leak does anyone know where or how this might be, im going to fit another diesel filter tom i have a funny feeling it might be slightly wrong.

Datatek said:

I agree about the glowplugs not relevant to hot starting. Just been looking at RAVE and the alternator controls when the fuel pump runs! Just to throw in another variable.

Extract from RAVE

Charging System
When the Ignition Switch (X274) is in position II, the
BeCM (Z238) turns the charge warning light on via
the datalink connection to the Instrument Pack
(Z142)
When the Generator (Z106) starts to produce power,
the BeCM (Z238) gets an input signal on Pin 15 and
turns off the charge warning light.
For the Diesel engine this signal is also used as an
input signal for the fuel pump relay inside the Engine
Compartment Fusebox (P125) to make sure that the
Fuel Pump (M109) is only supplied with power when
the engine is running.If the Generator (Z106) fails to produce power, the
charge warning light remains illuminated.

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also this one has lost me a little (im abit thick you see)

skippy22 said:

also this one has lost me a little (im abit thick you see)

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Just check the fuel pump relay and it's connections, look for signs of heating on the pins when you remove it and around the socket, try a substitute relay if possible. It's a long shot but I used to have a lot of probs with fuel pump relays on another make.

cheers mate ill try it tom