Discovery 3 loom

Mooncat63 said:

They are saying the wires are corroded would take to much time to cut them back solder new ones in

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u have a few options as I mentioned of either getting a second hand loom from a breakers or making up a new loom and cutting Out the bad section of loom then using the heat shrink joints that have the solder built in , then bigger heat shrink over that to protect the joints further

is that loom by the rear passenger side chassis plse by the wheel , thks

many of the looms can be quite big where they run front to back , if they didn’t want to cut in a new loom u would have to go back to every connector which would take a considerable amount of time

hope that helps

marjon said:

Not the way to go and if you actually brought all the kit to fix what you have it wouldn't amount to the much .

Man math.

If your able? we dont know OP ability.

You all good Gary? Have a good Xmas.

J

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indeed mate and hear more and more where some garages can’t be bothered to fix it , trying to sell a customer a complete new expensive system and as we know would totally destroy the ride quality along with disabling the height facility

not bad thks, suffering big time with my back as usual , cold doesn’t help, hope ur well my friend and likewise in having a good Xmas

lynall said:

Make your own loom one wire at a time, use superseal connectors for the joint over the chassis rail.
Do not solder, solder is proper dogshti outside of the cabin, use the heat shrink re/blue crimps.

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hi mate

funny enough also suggested that in regards to makimg up a new loom or getting a second hand loom and cutting it in

pretty sure that loom is quite big seeing the connectors are at the front and run all the way to those 3 x connectors that sit on the rear chassis rail

funny enough I like those connectors that have the solder inside , when I’ve used a few of them them have put a bigger piece of heat shrink over the top to further protect them

hope ur good mate

1988smithy said:

As marjon said mate, if you're half handy you can prob sort this with a bit of time

@gstuart dont they rub thru in a certain place?

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hiya

plus 1 as also suggested either making up a new loom or cutting in a second hand loom

have read the height sensor looms can rub through along with problems of the large 3 x connectors that sit on the rear chassis rail ,

know when I rebuilt my suspension I ensured looms where properly secured in order they didn’t flop around in the wind, plus prevent any hanging down with the risk of getting ripped out off road

years ago I had a series 3 that started to smoke behind the instrument panel whilst driving down a high street , on inspection I found a big melted lump of wires , connectors everywhere that had just been taped together

took the large loom out , laid it on the floor and then ran a new piece of wire one by one and making up a whole new loom , really enjoyed it as was very satisfying in the end

Mooncat63 said:

It's not giving a signal back so guessing broken wire somewhere between front and rear,

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Hope u don’t mind me saying but as a side note looking at that picture I would look behind ur rear passenger side wheel arch liner and sills for rust

do u happen to have steps fitted plse , thks

gstuart said:

hi mate

funny enough also suggested that in regards to makimg up a new loom or getting a second hand loom and cutting it in

pretty sure that loom is quite big seeing the connectors are at the front and run all the way to those 3 x connectors that sit on the rear chassis rail

funny enough I like those connectors that have the solder inside , when I’ve used a few of them them have put a bigger piece of heat shrink over the top to further protect them

hope ur good mate

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The connectors with solder inside are fine, it is plain wire soldered and covered with normal heat shrink that are trouble in the making, so long as the heatshrink/crimp has heat activated glue in it then it ill be okay.

lynall said:

The connectors with solder inside are fine, it is plain wire soldered and covered with normal heat shrink that are trouble in the making, so long as the heatshrink/crimp has heat activated glue in it then it ill be okay.

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Many thks , I also wonder if this liquid tape is any good for joints , particularly ones that are in the elements

gstuart said:

Many thks , I also wonder if this liquid tape is any good for joints , particularly ones that are in the elements

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Sadly I don't think anything is ever truly waterproof that is under the vehicle
Whatever connector you use you will have to put some sort of contact spray waterproof grease in the joint itself
The small crimp butt connectors are pretty good in that respect very similar to the solder ones that you like.
The Superseal type are quite decent, again still need contact spray for belt and braces, been using them a lot just lately.

lynall said:

Sadly I don't think anything is ever truly waterproof that is under the vehicle
Whatever connector you use you will have to put some sort of contact spray waterproof grease in the joint itself
The small crimp butt connectors are pretty good in that respect very similar to the solder ones that you like.
The Superseal type are quite decent, again still need contact spray for belt and braces, been using them a lot just lately.

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very true mate , apart from using those crimps that have the solder inside, then cut the heat shrink a lot longer over the join , plus has the adhesive inside

these are some I’ve used with great success , went for the marine ones but alas don’t know if there truly better than others , second link has nearly 40,000 good reviews

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must confess also like getting connectors that are pre-made and have the wire tails , so far so good with no water ingress

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Talking of the AMP super seal @lynall really like the rubber boots that u can get , plus the 3 x way connectors being so handy

gstuart said:

must confess also like getting connectors that are pre-made and have the wire tails , so far so good with no water ingress

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Them Deusche connectors are pretty decent.

gstuart said:

Talking of the AMP super seal @lynall really like the rubber boots that u can get , plus the 3 x way connectors being so handy
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We use loads of the 2 and 3 way super seal connectors
Them Y bits look handy

lynall said:

Them Deusche connectors are pretty decent.

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indeed never had a problem with them , did apply some silicone grease to help them click together

also found the link for u about those 3 x way connectors , handy for spot lights etc , plus some 1 x metre pre made amp extension cables that are also handy if u wish to cut out a section of bad wiring or from a spot light etc

hope it’s useful to u mate

Plus another thing I like are the conduit fittings for the amp connectors

gstuart said:

Plus another thing I like are the conduit fittings for the amp connectors

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Yes we use them as well and the t pieces.
Bear in mind their sizing is kind of weird some is the inside diameter of the conduit and some of the outside diameter of the conduit,
Plus what I would term as a male supaseal is actually a female supaseal.

Bought some chinese copy supaseal connectors and pliers from ebay, 31 quid the lot, have to say they crimp easier and nicer than the 50 quid pliers that I normally use!
The fittings look and feel just like the real ones.
The trick is to make sure the seal also goes into the crimp as well as the wire, do not crimp the wire then poke the seal into the connector afterwards as it will not be watertight.