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Derek
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Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I know
they are std on the later 300tdi.
Derek
they are std on the later 300tdi.
Derek
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I know
>they are std on the later 300tdi.
>Derek
>
WTF?
I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
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Agricola, 30
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I know
>they are std on the later 300tdi.
>Derek
>
WTF?
I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Where they make a desert they call it peace" Tacitus (c.55 - c.117)
Agricola, 30
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beamendsltd
Guest
In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I know
> >they are std on the later 300tdi.
> >Derek
> >
>
> WTF?
>
> I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
>
> don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
Richard
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Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I know
> >they are std on the later 300tdi.
> >Derek
> >
>
> WTF?
>
> I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
>
> don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
Richard
--
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Derek
Guest
"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:c375496a4e%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I
>> >know
>> >they are std on the later 300tdi.
>> >Derek
>> >
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
>>
>> don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
>> classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
>
> Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
>
> Richard
>
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
> Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
thats the idea Richard I would like a little more height at the back 1cm
thickness was suggested that in my book translates to about 2cm at the wheel
arch that sound about right ?
Derek
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TonyB
Guest
> > don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
>
> Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
the 200.
The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
TonyB
> > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
>
> Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
the 200.
The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
TonyB
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beamendsltd
Guest
In message <[email protected]>
"TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> > > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
> >
> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
>
> Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
> the 200.
> The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
>
> TonyB
>
>
Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
Richard
--
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www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
"TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> > > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
> >
> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
>
> Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
> the 200.
> The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
>
> TonyB
>
>
Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
Richard
--
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www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
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beamendsltd
Guest
In message <[email protected]>
"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:c375496a4e%[email protected]...
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
> >> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >>
> >> >Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I
> >> >know
> >> >they are std on the later 300tdi.
> >> >Derek
> >> >
> >>
> >> WTF?
> >>
> >> I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
> >>
> >> don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> >> classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
> >
> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --
> > www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> > www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
> > Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
>
> thats the idea Richard I would like a little more height at the back 1cm
> thickness was suggested that in my book translates to about 2cm at the wheel
> arch that sound about right ?
> Derek
>
>
The 1cm bit is abut right, but it will only llift the body by the
same amount.
Richard
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"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:c375496a4e%[email protected]...
> > In message <[email protected]>
> > Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On or around Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:59:14 GMT, "Derek"
> >> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >>
> >> >Has anyone had a problem fitting spring isolators to an early disco 1 I
> >> >know
> >> >they are std on the later 300tdi.
> >> >Derek
> >> >
> >>
> >> WTF?
> >>
> >> I assume a rubberoid thing twixt spring and mounting?
> >>
> >> don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
> >> classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
> >
> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --
> > www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> > www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
> > Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
>
> thats the idea Richard I would like a little more height at the back 1cm
> thickness was suggested that in my book translates to about 2cm at the wheel
> arch that sound about right ?
> Derek
>
>
The 1cm bit is abut right, but it will only llift the body by the
same amount.
Richard
--
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www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
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TonyB
Guest
> > Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof
than
> > the 200.
> > The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
> >
> > TonyB
> >
> >
>
> Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
> one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
>
> Richard
Phew. New springs not needed just yet then! Fitted the new windscreen wiper
motor tonight in about an hour,
all is well now although just for information the connector plug was
different to the original. Soon snipped it off and connected the old one via
con blocks though. Nice quiet motor too.
Don't think I'll do the heater matrix when it arrives, did one on a Cavalier
once and it was a pig.
The boys in overalls can do that one!
Thanks again for a speedy service Richard.
TonyB
than
> > the 200.
> > The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
> >
> > TonyB
> >
> >
>
> Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
> one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
>
> Richard
Phew. New springs not needed just yet then! Fitted the new windscreen wiper
motor tonight in about an hour,
all is well now although just for information the connector plug was
different to the original. Soon snipped it off and connected the old one via
con blocks though. Nice quiet motor too.
Don't think I'll do the heater matrix when it arrives, did one on a Cavalier
once and it was a pig.
The boys in overalls can do that one!
Thanks again for a speedy service Richard.
TonyB
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Derek
Guest
"TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> > Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof
> than
>> > the 200.
>> > The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
>> >
>> > TonyB
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
>> one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
>>
>> Richard
>
> Phew. New springs not needed just yet then! Fitted the new windscreen
> wiper
> motor tonight in about an hour,
> all is well now although just for information the connector plug was
> different to the original. Soon snipped it off and connected the old one
> via
> con blocks though. Nice quiet motor too.
>
> Don't think I'll do the heater matrix when it arrives, did one on a
> Cavalier
> once and it was a pig.
> The boys in overalls can do that one!
>
> Thanks again for a speedy service Richard.
> TonyB
>
I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE to
see how long a job it is?
Derek
mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:25:40 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>In message <[email protected]>
> "TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > > don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
>> > > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
>> >
>> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
>> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
>>
>> Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
>> the 200.
>> The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
>>
>> TonyB
>>
>>
>
>Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
>one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
were lower than 200s as well.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>In message <[email protected]>
> "TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > > don't see why they wouldn't fit, the springs are all the same size on RR
>> > > classics, discos, 90s and 110s, with the excepetion of the 110 rears.
>> >
>> > Possibly the point is that 200 & 300Tdi Discovery's have rather
>> > different length springs - possibly to accomodate the isolators.
>>
>> Interesting. My 300 Tdi ES has a lower ride height measured at the roof than
>> the 200.
>> The 200 had new springs, does this mean the 300 springs are shagged?
>>
>> TonyB
>>
>>
>
>Trying not to sound glib - no. They just have different ride heights,
>one of the many subtle changes between 200 & 300Tdi models.
of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
were lower than 200s as well.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
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TonyB
Guest
> >
>
> I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE to
> see how long a job it is?
>
> Derek
> mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
Yes please Derek, might have a crack at it meself if it's not too tricky.
TonyB
>
> I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE to
> see how long a job it is?
>
> Derek
> mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
Yes please Derek, might have a crack at it meself if it's not too tricky.
TonyB
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TonyB
Guest
> of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
> were lower than 200s as well.
> --
> Austin Shackles.
Oh thanks Austin.......
TonyB
> were lower than 200s as well.
> --
> Austin Shackles.
Oh thanks Austin.......
TonyB
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Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:12:11 +0100, "TonyB"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>> of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
>> were lower than 200s as well.
>> --
>> Austin Shackles.
>
>Oh thanks Austin.......
I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it sits
level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>> of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
>> were lower than 200s as well.
>> --
>> Austin Shackles.
>
>Oh thanks Austin.......
I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it sits
level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
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TonyB
Guest
> >
> >Oh thanks Austin.......
>
> I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
>
> the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
> looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
>
> shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it
sits
> level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
Seems to drive very well, cornering and braking are excellent which I put
down to the wide tyres.
Which reminds me, time for a couple of new fronts for the winter....
TonyB
> >Oh thanks Austin.......
>
> I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
>
> the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
> looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
>
> shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it
sits
> level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
Seems to drive very well, cornering and braking are excellent which I put
down to the wide tyres.
Which reminds me, time for a couple of new fronts for the winter....
TonyB
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Dougal
Guest
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:12:11 +0100, "TonyB"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>>of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
>>>were lower than 200s as well.
>>>--
>>>Austin Shackles.
>>
>>Oh thanks Austin.......
>
>
> I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
>
> the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
> looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
>
> shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it sits
> level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
Or check the state of the bump rubbers. If there is evidence of
regular contact the springs and/or shockers are past it. Check also
that the bump rubber clearance is fairly equal on both sides. I don't
have any Disco-specific figures but on a RRC expect about 2 inches on
the front and 2.5 inches on the rear (very roughly, I'm not going out
to measure).
> On or around Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:12:11 +0100, "TonyB"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>>of course, it might have shagged springs as well... I'd noticed that 300s
>>>were lower than 200s as well.
>>>--
>>>Austin Shackles.
>>
>>Oh thanks Austin.......
>
>
> I daresay the heights are around somewhere...
>
> the main judgement of knackered springs is feel on the road and whether it
> looks lower at one end or one side or one corner, when unladen.
>
> shagged springs lack travel and feel sort of "dead" on the road. If it sits
> level and drives OK, I'd leave it well alone.
Or check the state of the bump rubbers. If there is evidence of
regular contact the springs and/or shockers are past it. Check also
that the bump rubber clearance is fairly equal on both sides. I don't
have any Disco-specific figures but on a RRC expect about 2 inches on
the front and 2.5 inches on the rear (very roughly, I'm not going out
to measure).
D
Derek
Guest
"TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> >
>>
>> I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE
>> to
>> see how long a job it is?
>>
>> Derek
>> mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
>
>
> Yes please Derek, might have a crack at it meself if it's not too tricky.
> TonyB
That was more difficult than I thought I am getting overwhelmed by the
amount of info I have stored the US RAVE oddly doesn't give job times but
the olderUK version reckons on 3.7 hrs to replace a Matrix about the same as
the movie (lol) It would take me nearly that long to find the right tools-
must get on with cleaning out the garage
Derek
T
TonyB
Guest
"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news
[email protected]...
>
> "TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE
> >> to
> >> see how long a job it is?
> >>
> >> Derek
> >> mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
> >
> >
> > Yes please Derek, might have a crack at it meself if it's not too
tricky.
> > TonyB
>
> That was more difficult than I thought I am getting overwhelmed by the
> amount of info I have stored the US RAVE oddly doesn't give job times but
> the olderUK version reckons on 3.7 hrs to replace a Matrix about the same
as
> the movie (lol) It would take me nearly that long to find the right tools-
> must get on with cleaning out the garage
>
> Derek
>
Thanks Derek, one for garage this one.
TonyB
>
news
[email protected]...>
> "TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't want to worry you unduely but would you like me to look at RAVE
> >> to
> >> see how long a job it is?
> >>
> >> Derek
> >> mind like a rat trap - full of dead rodents
> >
> >
> > Yes please Derek, might have a crack at it meself if it's not too
tricky.
> > TonyB
>
> That was more difficult than I thought I am getting overwhelmed by the
> amount of info I have stored the US RAVE oddly doesn't give job times but
> the olderUK version reckons on 3.7 hrs to replace a Matrix about the same
as
> the movie (lol) It would take me nearly that long to find the right tools-
> must get on with cleaning out the garage
>
> Derek
>
Thanks Derek, one for garage this one.
TonyB
>
