Diff Lock Seized

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Andrew Cooke

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Thanks for the earlier replies ref the thermostat, will check it out in the
morning.

The only other problem with the car (which is otherwise in great nick for
under £3k!) is that I can't engage the diff-lock. The lever won't push
across at all and I wonder if it could just be seized or is it likely to be
more serious? The transfer box was stiff when trying to engage low range but
after a few goes it has freed up a bit. Any help appreciated.

Andy

<1995 300 TDi Auto>


 

"Andrew Cooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the earlier replies ref the thermostat, will check it out in
> the morning.
>
> The only other problem with the car (which is otherwise in great nick for
> under £3k!) is that I can't engage the diff-lock. The lever won't push
> across at all and I wonder if it could just be seized or is it likely to
> be more serious? The transfer box was stiff when trying to engage low
> range but after a few goes it has freed up a bit. Any help appreciated.
>
> Andy
>
> <1995 300 TDi Auto>
>

What colour is it Andy, i'll look for you on the school run tomorrow!!

Does the dash lamp come on BTW? or just nowt?


 
"Andrew Cooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the earlier replies ref the thermostat, will check it out in
> the morning.
>
> The only other problem with the car (which is otherwise in great nick for
> under £3k!) is that I can't engage the diff-lock. The lever won't push
> across at all and I wonder if it could just be seized or is it likely to
> be more serious? The transfer box was stiff when trying to engage low
> range but after a few goes it has freed up a bit. Any help appreciated.
>
> Andy
>
> <1995 300 TDi Auto>

Our 1997 Disco ES had the same problem.

It's newness. Ours had probably never been used since leaving the factory.
Give it a good workout and it will eventually slide over. I pulled in at a
Main dealer in the lakes and the nice chaps there shook hell out of the
lever for 3 minutes... I felt a bit daft after but hey, not as daft as not
being able to reverse the Caravan onto a pitch with my shinney 4x4.

Lee D


 
Took it in to a garage today, they reckon they have to strip out the centre
console to get at it. Is this true? I thought all the mechanical bits were
underneath the car?


"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Andrew Cooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Thanks for the earlier replies ref the thermostat, will check it out in
>> the morning.
>>
>> The only other problem with the car (which is otherwise in great nick for
>> under £3k!) is that I can't engage the diff-lock. The lever won't push
>> across at all and I wonder if it could just be seized or is it likely to
>> be more serious? The transfer box was stiff when trying to engage low
>> range but after a few goes it has freed up a bit. Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> <1995 300 TDi Auto>
>
> Our 1997 Disco ES had the same problem.
>
> It's newness. Ours had probably never been used since leaving the factory.
> Give it a good workout and it will eventually slide over. I pulled in at a
> Main dealer in the lakes and the nice chaps there shook hell out of the
> lever for 3 minutes... I felt a bit daft after but hey, not as daft as not
> being able to reverse the Caravan onto a pitch with my shinney 4x4.
>
> Lee D
>


 
Andrew Cooke <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> Took it in to a garage today, they reckon they have to strip out the
> centre console to get at it. Is this true? I thought all the
> mechanical bits were underneath the car?

My fix literally involved forceful yanking to and fro... with Mrs D and the
kids & Dog still sat in. Not a screwdriver in sight. Not withstanding that
yours may be alot worse. I gave so much force I was fearful of pulling the
knob off the lever. But the lad at the Main dealers didn't bat an eyelid and
didn't charge either... that's my kind of main dealer! I really wanted some
assurance I was trying to get it into diff lock the correct way as the car
was relatively new to us then.

Lee D


 
On or around Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:05:10 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Cooke"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Took it in to a garage today, they reckon they have to strip out the centre
>console to get at it. Is this true? I thought all the mechanical bits were
>underneath the car?

you'd probably have to in order to strip the linkage.

however, what they probably *do* is spray it all with WD40 and then get the
garage oik to sit there wiggling the lever for 5 minutes to free it up.

Cynic? Moi?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
Wassa diff lock then, don't reckon I got one them new fangled thingies :)


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Andrew Cooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the earlier replies ref the thermostat, will check it out in
the
> morning.
>
> The only other problem with the car (which is otherwise in great nick for
> under £3k!) is that I can't engage the diff-lock. The lever won't push
> across at all and I wonder if it could just be seized or is it likely to
be
> more serious? The transfer box was stiff when trying to engage low range
but
> after a few goes it has freed up a bit. Any help appreciated.
>
> Andy
>
> <1995 300 TDi Auto>
>
>


 
On or around Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:49:55 -0000, "Larry" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Wassa diff lock then, don't reckon I got one them new fangled thingies :)

I'd not say no to a rear one in a series III, if someone donated it :)

Steve's 101 with the difflock in the back axle does go exceptionally well
offroad, on standard bargips.
 
....and Austin Shackles spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> On or around Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:49:55 -0000, "Larry"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Wassa diff lock then, don't reckon I got one them new fangled
>> thingies :)
>
> I'd not say no to a rear one in a series III, if someone donated it
> :)
>
> Steve's 101 with the difflock in the back axle does go exceptionally
> well offroad, on standard bargips.

Well, up to a point, Lord Copper... See the recent video evidence for a 101
having ten goes at a hill that a standard Disco did first time. Yes, the
same 101 that later pulled said Disco out of the slurry.

Fifteen all.

:)


--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
Richard Brookman wrote: Yes, the
> same 101 that later pulled said Disco out of the slurry.

TWICE.

Steve
 
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Well, up to a point, Lord Copper... See the recent video evidence for a
> 101 having ten goes at a hill that a standard Disco did first time. Yes,
> the same 101 that later pulled said Disco out of the slurry.
>
> Fifteen all.
>
> :)

Having watched it I formed two impressions which are probably way out but
hey, purely a video observers opinion based on past experience on similarly
laden vehicles (not with a rear diff lock mind).

I wondered if it had been driven in 2nd low all the way it would have gone.
Only seemed to loose momentum on the gearchanges.

As the rear wheel rotation was never going to fail the other issue appeared
to be lack of weight in the back. Many a transit fails on roundabouts so
it's only fair to expect a 101 to fumble with little to nowt in the back.
I'd think if Martyn had sat in the back it would have gone up no
problem.....

Oh look ..... snow!

<walks away whislting>

Lee D


 
Lee_D wrote:

> I wondered if it had been driven in 2nd low all the way it would have gone.
> Only seemed to loose momentum on the gearchanges.

Interesting, and remarkably on topic for AFL. I am always inclined to
use my momentum to help up short steep bits. You reckon that 2nd would
work ? I'll have to have a play.

Steve
 
....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Richard Brookman wrote: Yes, the
>> same 101 that later pulled said Disco out of the slurry.
>
> TWICE.
>
> Steve

OK, OK ...

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Interesting, and remarkably on topic for AFL. I am always inclined to use
> my momentum to help up short steep bits. You reckon that 2nd would work ?
> I'll have to have a play.
>
> Steve

Sard to tell given it'sard to get a true perspective on film but I would
have thought it would have done it given the low ratios.. then again what
ratios are you running ? Is it the 7 mph at 4000rpm set or what ever it
worked out at or have you got a big set in there? Could well have just crept
so far then started to spin anyway due to absence of weight to provide
traction.

Autos are a bit of a cheat really so it's easy in an auto unless you lock
down your going to fly up the gears anyway with minimal issues , only
downside is you don't get the same feel when she's giving up.

Austins 2nd job as a milk man clearly gave him a ballast advantage :0)

And yes I'm jealous as hell I missed this bit, not only the watching and
heckling but the participation too.

Lee D


 
....and Steve spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Lee_D wrote:
>
>> I wondered if it had been driven in 2nd low all the way it would
>> have gone. Only seemed to loose momentum on the gearchanges.
>
> Interesting, and remarkably on topic for AFL. I am always inclined to
> use my momentum to help up short steep bits. You reckon that 2nd would
> work ? I'll have to have a play.
>
> Steve

Yes, you can see it on the vid. You get a good bit of momentum, and then on
the gearchange it virually stops. In a trial, I would have tackled that bit
in 2nd or 3rd low (depending on the torque characteristics of the lump) and
never gone near the clutch.

Just a thort.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
....and Lee_D spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Autos are a bit of a cheat really

Nah, pure skill.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> ...and Lee_D spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> Autos are a bit of a cheat really
>
> Nah, pure skill.
>
I think its only cheating if someone else fits it. If you'd seen the
thrutching and measurement needed to fit a Detroit in accordance with
the makers instructions, and the right way for a Salisbury axle, there's
a lot of skill in it !


Steve
 
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