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Hello

Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
wondered about these.

Cummins four cyclinder turbo
One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
Duramax v8 aluminium diesel

Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
Thanks for any suggestions.

 

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
> wondered about these.
>
> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>
> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?

Peter.


 


Pete S wrote:

> Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?

Why would anyone think of that ??
Erik-Jan.
 
Erik-Jan Geniets <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
:: Pete S wrote:
::
::: Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?
::
:: Why would anyone think of that ??
:: Erik-Jan.

Emissions??

Because Diesels in Landrovers are about as much fun as sticking your head in
a food mixer perhaphs :0)

Only advantage I've found over LPG is that they tend to run longer in deep
water. But given the likelyhood of me getting that deep in water then for me
personally It's not a problem.

Lee D


 
From Land Rover Monthly

Discovery V8 200Tdi
V8 on LPG

Purchase price £1,500 £2,500
£1,500 + £1500 conversion
Fuel Cost (20k miles) £5,222 £3,451
£1,938
Maintenance £300 £600
£300
Residual value £500 £1000
£750

Total £6,522 £5,551
£4,488

Fuel cost (10k miles) £4,361 £3,852
£3,519

Ian McDonald

"Pete S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>> wondered about these.
>>
>> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
>> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>>
>> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
>> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
>> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
> Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?
>
> Peter.
>


 
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"Doorbell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> From Land Rover Monthly
>
> Discovery V8 200Tdi
> V8 on LPG
>
> Purchase price £1,500 £2,500
> £1,500 + £1500 conversion
> Fuel Cost (20k miles) £5,222 £3,451 £1,938
> Maintenance £300 £600 £300
> Residual value £500 £1000
> £750
>
> Total £6,522
> £5,551 £4,488
>
> Fuel cost (10k miles) £4,361 £3,852 £3,519
>
> Ian McDonald
>
> "Pete S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>>> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>>> wondered about these.
>>>
>>> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>>> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
>>> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>>>
>>> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
>>> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
>>> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>>
>> Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>
>


 
On or around 2 Nov 2005 07:45:50 -0800, [email protected] enlightened
us thusly:

>Hello
>
>Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>wondered about these.
>
>Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
>Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>
>Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
>be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
>cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
>Thanks for any suggestions.

Where are you?

Mazda 3.5 6-pot is reckoned to be good. I bet the 4.2 Toyota would be fun,
if it'd fit and if you could find one.
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On or around Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:12:39 +0100, Erik-Jan Geniets
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>Pete S wrote:
>
>> Ever thouught of a gas conversion in stead?
>
>Why would anyone think of that ??

depending on where you are in the world, Propane can be considerably cheaper
than petrol/gasoline.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\
>> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around 2 Nov 2005 07:45:50 -0800, [email protected]
enlightened
> us thusly:
>
> >Hello
> >
> >Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
> >have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
> >wondered about these.
> >
> >Cummins four cyclinder turbo
> >One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
> >Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
> >
> >Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
> >be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
> >cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
> >Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Where are you?
>
> Mazda 3.5 6-pot is reckoned to be good. I bet the 4.2 Toyota would be
fun,
> if it'd fit and if you could find one.


I know of a Nissan diesel fitted to a Rangie, and I had a 6 cylinder Perkins
in my old Vogue. Sounded like a bus mind.
TonyB


 
> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
> wondered about these.
>
> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>
> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
I know where there is a V8 Perkins going cheap,
its out of a ford cargo mind, and probably weighs best part of a ton!


 
The message <[email protected]>
from [email protected] contains these words:

> Hello

> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
> wondered about these.

> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel

> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
> Thanks for any suggestions.

Montego is popular and you can get a kit to do the job,
I suspect you will be restricted to engines for which a kit is
available, or else you will be hand crafting clutch housings.

will the Cummins fit into a JCB do you think.

A few years ago a clever bugger I knew fitted a combine harvester engine
into a series, 6cyl and it poked out the front, Can't ask how as a
friend of mine legged it with his misses.

best of luck.

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
> wondered about these.
>
> Cummins four cyclinder turbo

Why the heck would you want an engine that has a maximum speed of 2600 at
best in a road car? Or anything other than a tractor or plant equipment?



> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>
> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.

Both those V engines are likely to be expensive but if you can find a
totalled Saab and are clever enough to install it, then that is the best
bet. Not too heavy or bulky. Reasonable refinement combined with power and
economy and has the ideal rev range.

Huw


 
On or around Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:06:27 +0000 (UTC), "TonyB"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>I know of a Nissan diesel fitted to a Rangie, and I had a 6 cylinder Perkins
>in my old Vogue. Sounded like a bus mind.

depends on the 6-pot perkins. The 6354 is very much a lorry engine and too
heavy...

'course, the BMW 6-pot diesels are highly regarded.

If you've got money... Audi do a nice V8 diesel :)
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
 
On or around Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:40:58 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>> Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>> have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>> wondered about these.
>>
>> Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>> One of the v6 aluminium diesels - for instance the isuzu
>> Duramax v8 aluminium diesel
>>
>> Any other thoughts please or comments on the above. The Duramax might
>> be a second mortgage job and I already know where I can get a nice
>> cummins four cyclinder low mileage.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>I know where there is a V8 Perkins going cheap,
>its out of a ford cargo mind, and probably weighs best part of a ton!
>

More likely a D-series... did the perkins V8 ever get into the Cargo?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
 
Huw wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Hello
>>
>>Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>>have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>>wondered about these.
>>
>>Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>
>
> Why the heck would you want an engine that has a maximum speed of 2600 at
> best in a road car? Or anything other than a tractor or plant equipment?
>

A Toyota 1KZT diesel might be a go. 3 litre, turbo making
130BHP@3600rpm, 210ft-lb@2800rpm and redline at 4700rpm

Or if you don't want the turbo try a Toyota 5L. 3litre making
91BHP@4000rpm, 141ft-lb@2400rpm and redline well above 4800rpm.


--
EMB
 
> >I know where there is a V8 Perkins going cheap,
> >its out of a ford cargo mind, and probably weighs best part of a ton!
> >
>
> More likely a D-series... did the perkins V8 ever get into the Cargo?
>
Definitely a cargo, 'F' reg.
The Perkins was quite common in the cargo, normally aspirated in the rigids,
and in turbo form in the tractor units.


 

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Huw wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>Does anyone have any ideas on a older range rover diesel conversion. I
>>>have been looking at alternatives to the land rover tdi engine and have
>>>wondered about these.
>>>
>>>Cummins four cyclinder turbo
>>
>>
>> Why the heck would you want an engine that has a maximum speed of 2600 at
>> best in a road car? Or anything other than a tractor or plant equipment?
>>
>
> A Toyota 1KZT diesel might be a go. 3 litre, turbo making 130BHP@3600rpm,
> 210ft-lb@2800rpm and redline at 4700rpm

If that is governed to 4700 I'm a monkeys uncle. I've enough experience of
that engine to know that it struggles to reach 4000erpm and is well out of
puff at those revs. Still a suitable engine for what he needs though as all
old Land Rover diesels are rated at around 4000 apart from the VM which were
rated at 4200erpm.

The Isuzu 3.1 might also be suitable and easy to find these days.

Huw


 
Huw wrote:

> If that is governed to 4700 I'm a monkeys uncle. I've enough experience of
> that engine to know that it struggles to reach 4000erpm and is well out of
> puff at those revs.

Take Toyota's useless restrictive exhaust system and throw it away.
Build a decent free flowing system and they develop a decent top end -
I've done this for a client and he couldn't believe the difference.


--
EMB
 
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:19:13 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Because Diesels in Landrovers are about as much fun as sticking your head in
>a food mixer perhaphs :0)

I resent that! :p

>Only advantage I've found over LPG is that they tend to run longer in deep
>water. But given the likelyhood of me getting that deep in water then for me
>personally It's not a problem.

Ive done a diesel conversion to a series landrover. Took me a fair
while.

I'm currently LPGing a car and i reckon its going to take me 2 days
(not full ones either).

LPG is a lot less work..

 
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I already have a lpg conversion
but for this project I need a diesel, taking it abroad to where there
is not a lot of lpg.

 
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