Detroit locker???

They're a lot of money!
Unless you're into very serious stuff or competition, they're hard to justify.
I've heard they work well.

have a rear arb locker i know there different but they are an amazing improvment off road would recommend lockers to anyone

ARB's front and rear......brilliant! And tyre pump to boot.

regards

Dave

but people can hear you "locking in", get the leccy ones and people will think your an awesome driver

I originaly went for the leccy ones from Kam. But trying to find someone who would fit them was a nightmare!

The two companies that Kam offered (one here in Spain and one in the UK) both failed to respond to emails or were half hearted in their reply.

I do not know why because even the the email to the Spanish company was in Spanish so no issues of translation.

I made one phone call about ARB's and Ashcroft were recommended, I went with the 4.11 ratios to go with the tyre size and added the hardened driveshafts/flanges/CV's blah blah.

And the set up is brilliant!!

I really did not care who got the money but wanted something that worked and had some form of backup. If I had a problem here in Spain then Ashcroft would just send me a new diff with locker already fitted which I could fit myself.

regards

Dave

Treworgey 90 said:

They're a lot of money!
Unless you're into very serious stuff or competition, they're hard to justify.
I've heard they work well.

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ye i definitely need it, the car is capable of going alot further than it does i have everything else set up just ready for the lockers

someone was saying they can hear u lock in??? that dont matter it means they can hear the money ive spent on beating them lol

defender/discovery said:

have a rear arb locker i know there different but they are an amazing improvment off road would recommend lockers to anyone

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quick one with the arbs, i know u need a compressor is it a pain to get it fitted and how much in total did it cost you?

The cost of the ARB pump was at the time £140.00, I am unsure if they are cheaper now. It is true you do not have to use the ARB unit as others are available.

I chose the ARB unit because 1, any warranty issues cannot be blamed on a third party unit. 2, the way the pump mount adjusts/rotates/swivels means you can fit it wherever there is a gap big enough. And 3, spare parts are a doddle to obtain, very important to me here in Spain.

Mine is fitted (200 tdi Discovery) between the windscreen washer bottle and the rad header tank.

I also got the tyre pump up kit as well.

Fitment is a doddle as all the connectors/wiring/pressure switches ect come supplied.

Got pics of fitment if interested?

regards

Dave

Dave 2000 said:

The cost of the ARB pump was at the time £140.00, I am unsure if they are cheaper now. It is true you do not have to use the ARB unit as others are available.

I chose the ARB unit because 1, any warranty issues cannot be blamed on a third party unit. 2, the way the pump mount adjusts/rotates/swivels means you can fit it wherever there is a gap big enough. And 3, spare parts are a doddle to obtain, very important to me here in Spain.

Mine is fitted (200 tdi Discovery) between the windscreen washer bottle and the rad header tank.

I also got the tyre pump up kit as well.

Fitment is a doddle as all the connectors/wiring/pressure switches ect come supplied.

Got pics of fitment if interested?

regards

Dave

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ye im mostly interested as to what mods u had to fit to the diff and ye pics would be awesome

Fitment is easy as the unit comes already assembled in with the 4.1 ring and pinion set. One of my stipulations to Ashcroft was that if I change my car to a later 300 tdi I wanted to ensure the parts would swap.

This meant straight away that I could not use the 10 spline halfshafts which are in the 200 tdi, the 300 uses 24 spline versions.

So I replaced: Differentials with ARB's (24 spline) and then added hardened: halfshafts, flanges, CV's.

The setup is supposed to be pretty much bullet proof, as of yet I have not broken anything (famous last words).

This will be my first attempt to upload the pictures so here goes.

regards

Dave

Dave 2000 said:

Fitment is easy as the unit comes already assembled in with the 4.1 ring and pinion set. One of my stipulations to Ashcroft was that if I change my car to a later 300 tdi I wanted to ensure the parts would swap.

This meant straight away that I could not use the 10 spline halfshafts which are in the 200 tdi, the 300 uses 24 spline versions.

So I replaced: Differentials with ARB's (24 spline) and then added hardened: halfshafts, flanges, CV's.

The setup is supposed to be pretty much bullet proof, as of yet I have not broken anything (famous last words).

This will be my first attempt to upload the pictures so here goes.

regards

Dave

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is fitting the ARB lockers difficult on the 300? looking at getting lockers for mine but i dont like to pay people to fit things to my baby, id rather try myself but if its a proper hard job i simply wont buy them!!

The 3 things to make you better off-road (in my opinion)

Good tyres, (aired down when off road)
decent lift (for ground clearance)
Lockers (make you feel invincible)

Fitting lockers was the best thing I ever done, it's like night and day off road.
Only problem is, you have to find harder trails to drive


edit: forgot to add....Winch

slobodan said:

The 3 things to make you better off-road (in my opinion)

Good tyres, (aired down when off road)
decent lift (for ground clearance)
Lockers (make you feel invincible)

Fitting lockers was the best thing I ever done, it's like night and day off road.
Only problem is, you have to find harder trails to drive

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did you fit them yourself?! i wanna know how hard they are to fit?!

I have installed lockrite lockers in my jeep wrangler, that was an easy job (I'm not a mechanic) just followed the instructions. I have also fitted an electro magnetic (can't remember the make) locker to my mate's jeep. that was pretty straightforward, I wobbled a bit when drilling the hole for the wire to go through.
ARB is a good company, I'm sure it is a case of just following step by step instructions.
I would rather attempt this stuff myself than let a workshop do it, that way you know whats going on should something go wrong.
One problem I have found with lockers is: You tend to break stuff further down, I have gone through 4 halfshafts now
There are plenty of write ups on the web on fitting lockers. have a good read up then go for it!

slobodan said:

I have installed lockrite lockers in my jeep wrangler, that was an easy job (I'm not a mechanic) just followed the instructions. I have also fitted an electro magnetic (can't remember the make) locker to my mate's jeep. that was pretty straightforward, I wobbled a bit when drilling the hole for the wire to go through.
ARB is a good company, I'm sure it is a case of just following step by step instructions.
I would rather attempt this stuff myself than let a workshop do it, that way you know whats going on should something go wrong.
One problem I have found with lockers is: You tend to break stuff further down, I have gone through 4 halfshafts now
There are plenty of write ups on the web on fitting lockers. have a good read up then go for it!

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Generaly it is fair to say that most manufactuers build the car with all the parts matched for example clutch strength against engine power/weight of vehicle/intended use ect. We all know that sooner or later a weakness will show up in the original design but it is normally quite a few thousand miles or a couple of years later (electronics excepted).

You have to really sit down and decide what you intend to do with the vehicle and where you intend to do it. If your 'off roading' local then perhaps you can suffer a halfshaft or CV failure and get recoverd easily, but on the other hand if you go off into the wilds (as we do) then you need to research your vehicles weaknesses to enable a more understanding of what might break again for example in your case halfshafts.

Have you considered heavy duty units? Is it the same shaft that breaks each time? If the cost of replacing all the shafts with heavy duty ones is out of the question perhaps just carrying a spare of the common failure one (standard) is sufficient to get you home. It is no good just replacing the regular weak one with a heavy duty unit as you will just pass the weak link to another component.


Despite making my setup as 'bullet proof' as possible the weak link (apparently) is the CV joints, having added the Ashcroft stengthened units I hope to have eliminated that weakness. Of course knowing that is a weak link and assuming all other things are equal it has to be assumed that the CV's despite being heavy duty units will remain the achiles heel. In anticipation of this

I have purchased a complete CV exchange kit (standard) to keep in the car, if one breaks I can replace at the trail side, for the 20 odd quid it costs its cheap insurance and may be all I need to get me to civilisation.

Have e real good read up on the Internet as there are people out there who have taken thier car to its limit and back and you can learn from thier experience, this could save a lot of money in the long run.

regards

Dave

Snow said:

is fitting the ARB lockers difficult on the 300? looking at getting lockers for mine but i dont like to pay people to fit things to my baby, id rather try myself but if its a proper hard job i simply wont buy them!!

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The paperwork that came with the lockers indicate it is a pretty straighforward job, the only issue I can see is if you get the backlash wrong when fitting your ring and pinion back together then you could end up with a whining differential so spend a little time getting that right and the rest is easy. I replaced a leaky 'O' ring on my ARB unit and it takes just seconds to do once the diff is out. The 200 and 300 fitments are the same IIRC.

Rigging my car with ARB's F & R was the best thing I ever did and the only issue I have is oil creeping up the air line after about a year of use, something to do with 'O' ring alignment which could be my fault, having said that they work perfectly without fail and are used 3 out of 4 weekends and recently proved themselves in competition.

regards

Dave

Dave 2000 said:

The paperwork that came with the lockers indicate it is a pretty straighforward job, the only issue I can see is if you get the backlash wrong when fitting your ring and pinion back together then you could end up with a whining differential so spend a little time getting that right and the rest is easy. I replaced a leaky 'O' ring on my ARB unit and it takes just seconds to do once the diff is out. The 200 and 300 fitments are the same IIRC.

Rigging my car with ARB's F & R was the best thing I ever did and the only issue I have is oil creeping up the air line after about a year of use, something to do with 'O' ring alignment which could be my fault, having said that they work perfectly without fail and are used 3 out of 4 weekends and recently proved themselves in competition.

regards

Dave

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long as its not too technical or difficult i dont mind having a go, but i lack patients when fitting new mods to the car just want them to appear on once I have brought them!