defra wili !!!!!!

let them know what you realy think !

http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> let them know what you realy think !
>
> http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome
>

H'mmm Is this spam? I daren't click on the link incase I end up married to
some Russian Big mamma Click Yes/No to abort type spawning popups.

Lee D

Lee_D wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>let them know what you realy think !
>>
>>http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome
>>
>
>
> H'mmm Is this spam? I daren't click on the link incase I end up married to
> some Russian Big mamma Click Yes/No to abort type spawning popups.
>
> Lee D
>
>
No, it seems that DEFRA have indeed set up a wiki page - but it is
currently locked to edits.

Stuart

"Srtgray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Lee_D wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>let them know what you realy think !
> >>
> >>http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome
> >>
> >
> >
> > H'mmm Is this spam? I daren't click on the link incase I end up married
to
> > some Russian Big mamma Click Yes/No to abort type spawning popups.
> >
> > Lee D
> >
> >
> No, it seems that DEFRA have indeed set up a wiki page - but it is
> currently locked to edits.
>

Perhaps, in their ideal and self-congratulatory pension parachute world,
they just weren't expecting to be told they were arse by so many different
people in so many different ways and they're now installing a *nice posts
only* filter so that when the next elections are due they can say "98% of
people think we're nice and doing a good job". Arse!

Steve

On 2006-09-06, Srtgray <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, it seems that DEFRA have indeed set up a wiki page - but it is
> currently locked to edits.

It didn't used to be locked to edits, as shown by the following story;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/05/defra_wiki_abuse/

Some chops from the above URL;

------------------------------
Hours after publication of the policy, pranksters launched dozens of
attacks against the wiki, hosted on Defra's official website. The
heading for discussion "Who are the parties to the environmental
contract?" became, "Where is the party for the environmental contract?
Can I come? Will there be cake? Hooray!"

Responses to the question of "what tools can be used to deliver the
environmental contract?" solicited the illuminating answer: "Spade,
Organic Yoghurt Stirrer, Old washing up liquid bottle, Sticky Back
Plastic."

Hackers suggested the correct tools to "create the right incentive
frameworks" included a "Big stick" and an "Owl magnet".
------------------------------

If ever anyone wonders why we don't get to vote on individual
government proposals on a regular basis, "people with way too much
time on their hands" is all the answer you need.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2006-09-06, Srtgray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, it seems that DEFRA have indeed set up a wiki page - but it is
>> currently locked to edits.
>
> It didn't used to be locked to edits, as shown by the following story;
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/05/defra_wiki_abuse/
>
> Some chops from the above URL;
>
> ------------------------------
> Hours after publication of the policy, pranksters launched dozens of
> attacks against the wiki, hosted on Defra's official website. The
> heading for discussion "Who are the parties to the environmental
> contract?" became, "Where is the party for the environmental contract?
> Can I come? Will there be cake? Hooray!"
>
> Responses to the question of "what tools can be used to deliver the
> environmental contract?" solicited the illuminating answer: "Spade,
> Organic Yoghurt Stirrer, Old washing up liquid bottle, Sticky Back
> Plastic."
>
> Hackers suggested the correct tools to "create the right incentive
> frameworks" included a "Big stick" and an "Owl magnet".
> ------------------------------
>
> If ever anyone wonders why we don't get to vote on individual
> government proposals on a regular basis, "people with way too much
> time on their hands" is all the answer you need.
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Less than surprising just about every website is vulnerable and liable to
attack even less surprising that the builders didn't seem to be aware of
the potential issues.
. I am deeply critical of government websites at best they a difficult
to navigate and poorly constructed at worse just window dressing in the
vein of being seen to be doing something often just a vehicle for
advertising.
Doubt me ? try finding the details about vehicle lighting for your series 1
using
the search facility at http://www.dft.gov.uk/ . There is a bright spot
though the
DVLA site is working rather better it is possible to find the Historic
Vehicle tax exemption details without and hours trawling.
Derek

On 2006-09-06, Derek <[email protected]> wrote:

> Less than surprising just about every website is vulnerable and
> liable to attack even less surprising that the builders didn't seem
> to be aware of the potential issues.

IIRC the site in question was a "wiki", the irritating name for a site
that is designed to be editable by the users, it wasn't that the site
was hacked, it was just editable by everyone, by design. With
predictable consequences.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2006-09-06, Derek <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Less than surprising just about every website is vulnerable and
>> liable to attack even less surprising that the builders didn't seem
>> to be aware of the potential issues.
>
> IIRC the site in question was a "wiki", the irritating name for a site
> that is designed to be editable by the users, it wasn't that the site
> was hacked, it was just editable by everyone, by design. With
> predictable consequences.
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Exactly my point you could see it was going to happen, I could, probably
Spinner
my dog could, everybody could it seems except the builders who possibly
don't understand the concept of 'online moderators' these would be those
folk costing us the odd billion here and there in hopeless IT cockups that
seem to continually dog adminstration in government departments bring back
Jim Hacker I say!!!!
Derek

Derek wrote:
> "Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2006-09-06, Derek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Less than surprising just about every website is vulnerable and
>>> liable to attack even less surprising that the builders didn't seem
>>> to be aware of the potential issues.
>>
>> IIRC the site in question was a "wiki", the irritating name for a
>> site that is designed to be editable by the users, it wasn't that
>> the site was hacked, it was just editable by everyone, by design. With
>> predictable consequences.
>>
>> --
>> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
>
> Exactly my point you could see it was going to happen, I could,
> probably Spinner
> my dog could, everybody could it seems except the builders who
> possibly don't understand the concept of 'online moderators' these
> would be those folk costing us the odd billion here and there in
> hopeless IT cockups that seem to continually dog adminstration in
> government departments bring back Jim Hacker I say!!!!
> Derek

Dead, regrettably!

--
Don't say it cannot be done, rather what is needed to do it!

If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate

The fiend of my fiend is my enema!

Srtgray wrote:
> Lee_D wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>> let them know what you realy think !
>>>
>>> http://wiki.defra.gov.uk/WikiHome
>>
>> H'mmm Is this spam? I daren't click on the link incase I end up
>> married to some Russian Big mamma Click Yes/No to abort type spawning
>> popups.
>>
> No, it seems that DEFRA have indeed set up a wiki page - but it is
> currently locked to edits.

They had to do that, in case someone living in the nasty mucky
countryside started trying to write a few truths in there...


(No, I still haven't forgiven DEFRA for buggering our private water
supply with purity values exceeding most mineral waters and forcing us
to have chlorinated mains water put in by the most incompetent plumbers
ever to leave a foot-wide hole in an exterior wall unfilled... Whatever
gave you that idea?)