couple of daft questions

Guest

• Jul 15, 2005

• #1

Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit? and when
would I use a hand throttle.

Thanks in advance, Phil

 

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[email protected]

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #2

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:27:58 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote:

>Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
>unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
>sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit?

It's for lowering the engine revs when cruising under lower load, so
engage it on the open road above ~40 when lightly laden.

> and when
>would I use a hand throttle.

It's for use with the pto, the space for which is now occupied by the
overdrive. Use it for upping the idle when jump starting. Is this
diesel or petrol? The petrol ones should have a separate governor.

AJH

 

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beamendsltd

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #3

In message <[email protected]>
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
> unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
> sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit? and when
> would I use a hand throttle.
>
> Thanks in advance, Phil

Never, ever, use the hand throttle when driving - it is intended
for use when driving equipment off the PTO's to keep the engine
at the required revs.

You can use the overdrive as and when you see fit (though Fairey,
the makers, don't recomment its use on 1st and 2nd gears).
Basically, if the engine is screaming its nuts off but won't
quite pull the next gear then engage the overdrive, equally
when going down a hill this can sometimes be a bit easier
with the overdrive engaged. Don't panic though, the overdrive
is quite possibly the toughest part of your drive train! Having
oil in it (EP90) is often considered a bonus though.

Richard
--
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David G. Bell

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #4

On Friday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:27:58 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
> >unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
> >sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit?
>
> It's for lowering the engine revs when cruising under lower load, so
> engage it on the open road above ~40 when lightly laden.
>
> > and when
> >would I use a hand throttle.
>
> It's for use with the pto, the space for which is now occupied by the
> overdrive. Use it for upping the idle when jump starting. Is this
> diesel or petrol? The petrol ones should have a separate governor.

Also fitted to military FFR vehicles ("Fitted For Radio"). We once had
an SII FFR on the farm. Main feature was 24volt electrics, with a big
control box (cast metal) in the back, a lot of screened leads, and a
pretty big generator. And the pair of 12volt batteries, under a cover,
replacing the centre front seat.

Otherwise, yes, something you'd expect with a PTO.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."

 

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Tom Woods

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #5

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:36:37 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:27:58 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
>>unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
>>sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit?
>
>It's for lowering the engine revs when cruising under lower load, so
>engage it on the open road above ~40 when lightly laden.

I also use mine when i have heavy loads or encounter a big hill. Gives
you some nice extra inbetween gears (like 3rd overdrive - or 2nd
overdrive when you have a lot of stuff in the back!)

>> and when
>>would I use a hand throttle.

Also handy for when it won't tick over properly and the choke just
doesnt hack it!
>
>It's for use with the pto, the space for which is now occupied by the
>overdrive. Use it for upping the idle when jump starting. Is this
>diesel or petrol? The petrol ones should have a separate governor.
>
>AJH

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #6

On or around Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:10:41 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:36:37 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:27:58 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
>>>unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
>>>sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit?
>>
>>It's for lowering the engine revs when cruising under lower load, so
>>engage it on the open road above ~40 when lightly laden.
>
>I also use mine when i have heavy loads or encounter a big hill. Gives
>you some nice extra inbetween gears (like 3rd overdrive - or 2nd
>overdrive when you have a lot of stuff in the back!)

ISTR 2nd OD is deprecated, 'cos it puts too much load on the OD unit. but
3rd OD is approx halfway from 3rd to 4th, and 4th OD is obviously for
cruising.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".

 

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Tom Woods

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• Jul 15, 2005

• #7

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:07:20 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>I also use mine when i have heavy loads or encounter a big hill. Gives
>>you some nice extra inbetween gears (like 3rd overdrive - or 2nd
>>overdrive when you have a lot of stuff in the back!)
>
>ISTR 2nd OD is deprecated, 'cos it puts too much load on the OD unit. but
>3rd OD is approx halfway from 3rd to 4th, and 4th OD is obviously for
>cruising.

My overdrive hasnt broken yet! I think they are fairly strong

Its not that often i move loads that heavy though.

 

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Samuel

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• Jul 17, 2005

• #8

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:a9c5c98a4d%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
> > unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
> > sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit? and when
> > would I use a hand throttle.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, Phil
>
> Never, ever, use the hand throttle when driving - it is intended
> for use when driving equipment off the PTO's to keep the engine
> at the required revs.
>

i disagree here, while it is silly to use the hand-throttle for road-driving
(i.e. as a makeshift cruise control. this can be dangerous as it will go a
lot faster down a hill than up, and also you WILL forget about the
hand-throttle and put the clutch in and wonder why the motor is revving its
nuts off). but for low speed four-wheel driving, a hand throttle can be
excellent. i used it all the time on the old landcruiser (my landy dont have
one) and it was a great help. basically just jumps the idle up to whatever
you would like so you can concentrate on steering vehicle position rather
than trying to keep your foot in the same position relative to the pedal
while being battered around your cabin on rough terrain.

but i think hand throttle should only be used in (just at an educated guess)
1st high-range and 1st and 2nd low-range.

Hope this is of some help.

Sam.

 

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Derry Argue

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• Jul 17, 2005

• #9

"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> it is silly to use the hand-throttle for road-driving
>

That reminds me of my old Morgan three wheeler days (Ford engine,
unfortunately).

The single drive wheel was inclined to slip, so bung her into gear, set the
hand throttle, hop out and push. Then run like hell to catch up and jump in
(hopefully) before she disappeared over the horizon!

The only car I have ever owned that I could hand signal a left turn with
the left arm. Oh, and touch the ground from the driver's seat without
stretching. Took the girl friend out with one of those bee-hive hair do's.
Had to take the canvas down to get her in. The leaking gear box left two
beautiful buttock prints on her white coat too.<g>

Derry.

 

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Samuel

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• Jul 18, 2005

• #10

"Derry Argue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > it is silly to use the hand-throttle for road-driving
> >
>
> That reminds me of my old Morgan three wheeler days (Ford engine,
> unfortunately).
>
> The single drive wheel was inclined to slip, so bung her into gear, set
the
> hand throttle, hop out and push. Then run like hell to catch up and jump
in
> (hopefully) before she disappeared over the horizon!
>
> The only car I have ever owned that I could hand signal a left turn with
> the left arm. Oh, and touch the ground from the driver's seat without
> stretching. Took the girl friend out with one of those bee-hive hair do's.
> Had to take the canvas down to get her in. The leaking gear box left two
> beautiful buttock prints on her white coat too.<g>
>
> Derry.

Sounds like a ripper derry, but why on earth did that little thing have a
hand throttle? how long did that girlfriend last?

Sam.

 

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Derry Argue

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• Jul 18, 2005

• #11

"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Derry Argue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

>> >
>>
>> That reminds me of my old Morgan three wheeler days (Ford engine,
>> unfortunately).
>>
>> Derry.
>
> Sounds like a ripper derry, but why on earth did that little thing
> have a hand throttle?

You got me there. Maybe just for when it got stuck!<g> But it definitely
did come in handy, same as there is a hand throttle on a tractor.

> how long did that girlfriend last?

Not long. After seeing the oil stains on her coat, I didn't have the nerve
to ask her out again!
>
> Sam.
>

Derry
>
>

 

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Manley

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• Jul 18, 2005

• #12

Lots of answers already, but my tuppenceworth:

Don't use the hand throttle unless you are using the PTO

Use the overdrive as a fifth gear to begin with. With heavy loads it makes
a good 3.5th gear on hills, but you'll knacker it if you use it in 1st and
2nd too much.

DON'T REVERSE IN OVERDRIVE - this can (although I have forgotten and done it
many times without this happening) unscrew the cog.

Worth getting hold of the gear and end-plate and chucking them behind the
seat so that you can get home if you do bugger the OD box.

I'd buy some free-wheeling hubs too, but that's personal prioritising.

Cheers,

Lord Manley


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just bought a 1960 swb which comes with a hand throttle and a overdrive
> unit. Could some one tell me how these are best used? If that makes
> sense, ie, when driving, when do I engage the overdrive unit? and when
> would I use a hand throttle.
>
> Thanks in advance, Phil