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zxcvar
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Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
repair of American cars? With thanks.
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Gripper
Guest
In 14 years of use, my 1985 Toyota Corolla's average repair costs was
$346.35. ( per year)
Cost included: tires, tune up, winshield washer, wipers, wax, plus I added
10% over the cost.
My Toy died at 394,000km.. (Head gasket) Maybe I should'nt have red lined it
so often or maybe it was because I added 3 quarts of oil every time the
motor made a loud clicking noise or maybe it didn't know it wasn't a truck.
Who knows.
My Honda is turning out to be as good as my Toyota.
In 9 years I bought 3 Fords, 5 GMs.
In the last 18 years I bought 2 Toyotas, 2 Hondas. We are currently driving
our Honda Civic (249,000km) and Toyota 4Runner (150,000km) daily.
I'll let you do the math on which is cheaper in the end.
"zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> repair of American cars? With thanks.
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Blaster!
Guest
I have found a 5% difference. But then again there is a 6% margin of error.
"zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> repair of American cars? With thanks.
"zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> repair of American cars? With thanks.
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Gripper
Guest
I ran over Barnie. So add another 50% for intensive repairs. (I had to make
sure I got him good.)
+ I tried to BBQ Big Bird but the flames didn't go out the sunroof properly.
Add another 20%
"Blaster!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have found a 5% difference. But then again there is a 6% margin of
error.
>
>
> "zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>
>
sure I got him good.)
+ I tried to BBQ Big Bird but the flames didn't go out the sunroof properly.
Add another 20%
"Blaster!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have found a 5% difference. But then again there is a 6% margin of
error.
>
>
> "zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>
>
C
C. E. White
Guest
This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
vary.
Ed
zxcvar wrote:
> Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> repair of American cars? With thanks.
my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
vary.
Ed
zxcvar wrote:
> Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> repair of American cars? With thanks.
G
Gripper
Guest
Ford stands for:
Fix Or Repair Daily
Found On Road Dead
Fu!@#$% Old Rebuilt Dodge
You mentioned you've had 10+ Fords which leads me to beleive you don't keep
them for very long.
Which means it's costing you alot of money to buy a new Ford every couple of
years.
If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
"C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
> my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
> least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
> to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
> vary.
>
> Ed
>
> zxcvar wrote:
>
> > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>
Fix Or Repair Daily
Found On Road Dead
Fu!@#$% Old Rebuilt Dodge
You mentioned you've had 10+ Fords which leads me to beleive you don't keep
them for very long.
Which means it's costing you alot of money to buy a new Ford every couple of
years.
If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
"C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
> my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
> least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
> to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
> vary.
>
> Ed
>
> zxcvar wrote:
>
> > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>
C
C. E. White
Guest
I am fifty years old. In the last 18 years I have purchased 10 new vehicles.
However I have owned multiple vehicle at a time. I estimate the average age of
my vehicles when I disposed of them is around 6 years. When I was younger I used
to trade cars every year or two (a wise move when you buy Audis, Toyotas, and
Datsuns). Since the mid '80s I have mostly kept the cars until I was just tired
of them. I drive over 40,000 miles a year. Currently I own three vehicles. One
is a 1992 Ford F150. It is just a farm vehicle now. I only drive it around 3000
miles a year now (I used to drive it a lot more). Number two is 2003 Ford
Expedition. I use it to haul kids and "stuff" and tow a boat between home one
and home two (a farm). It has 35,000 mile on the odometer at this point (it
replaced a '97 Expedition with 149,000 miles). Vehicle three is a 2003 Saturn
Vue (4 cylinder). I drive it from home one to my real job on a daily basis and
to run errands. I probably drive it 45 miles on an average day (15,000 a year or
so). I bought it to replace a 2001 Mustang. The Mustang was uncomfortable for me
and my two teenage sons. The last eight new vehicles I owned were:
1986 Mercury Sable - Sold to a freind after 10 years and 139,000 miles
1989 Ford Taurus Wagon - ex-wife got this in the divorce. Not my problem.
1992 F150 - I still own this, 92,000 miles
1996 Ford Explorer - Sold after one year and 32,00 miles becasue I wanted a
better tow vehicle with more seats - i.e., an Expedition
1997 Ford Expedition - Traded after 5 years and 149,000 miles - just wanted a
new one. Was still running great when I traded it.
2001 Ford Mustang - Daily driver, traded after 3 years to get something with
more interior room and lower insurance, 38,000 miles, no problems.
2003 Ford Expedition - still own, 35,000 miles, no problems
2003 Saturn View - still own, 4,000 miles, no problems
The '89 Taurus replaced a Toyota Cressida. The Toyota was a piece of crap. I was
very glad to see it limp away with it's cheap palstic, crummy paint, and
malfunctiong transmission.
Ed
Gripper wrote:
> Ford stands for:
> Fix Or Repair Daily
> Found On Road Dead
> Fu!@#$% Old Rebuilt Dodge
>
> You mentioned you've had 10+ Fords which leads me to beleive you don't keep
> them for very long.
> Which means it's costing you alot of money to buy a new Ford every couple of
> years.
> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
>
> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
>
> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
> > vary.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > zxcvar wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >
However I have owned multiple vehicle at a time. I estimate the average age of
my vehicles when I disposed of them is around 6 years. When I was younger I used
to trade cars every year or two (a wise move when you buy Audis, Toyotas, and
Datsuns). Since the mid '80s I have mostly kept the cars until I was just tired
of them. I drive over 40,000 miles a year. Currently I own three vehicles. One
is a 1992 Ford F150. It is just a farm vehicle now. I only drive it around 3000
miles a year now (I used to drive it a lot more). Number two is 2003 Ford
Expedition. I use it to haul kids and "stuff" and tow a boat between home one
and home two (a farm). It has 35,000 mile on the odometer at this point (it
replaced a '97 Expedition with 149,000 miles). Vehicle three is a 2003 Saturn
Vue (4 cylinder). I drive it from home one to my real job on a daily basis and
to run errands. I probably drive it 45 miles on an average day (15,000 a year or
so). I bought it to replace a 2001 Mustang. The Mustang was uncomfortable for me
and my two teenage sons. The last eight new vehicles I owned were:
1986 Mercury Sable - Sold to a freind after 10 years and 139,000 miles
1989 Ford Taurus Wagon - ex-wife got this in the divorce. Not my problem.
1992 F150 - I still own this, 92,000 miles
1996 Ford Explorer - Sold after one year and 32,00 miles becasue I wanted a
better tow vehicle with more seats - i.e., an Expedition
1997 Ford Expedition - Traded after 5 years and 149,000 miles - just wanted a
new one. Was still running great when I traded it.
2001 Ford Mustang - Daily driver, traded after 3 years to get something with
more interior room and lower insurance, 38,000 miles, no problems.
2003 Ford Expedition - still own, 35,000 miles, no problems
2003 Saturn View - still own, 4,000 miles, no problems
The '89 Taurus replaced a Toyota Cressida. The Toyota was a piece of crap. I was
very glad to see it limp away with it's cheap palstic, crummy paint, and
malfunctiong transmission.
Ed
Gripper wrote:
> Ford stands for:
> Fix Or Repair Daily
> Found On Road Dead
> Fu!@#$% Old Rebuilt Dodge
>
> You mentioned you've had 10+ Fords which leads me to beleive you don't keep
> them for very long.
> Which means it's costing you alot of money to buy a new Ford every couple of
> years.
> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
>
> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
>
> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
> > vary.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > zxcvar wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >
R
rnf2
Guest
"C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote
> The '89 Taurus replaced a Toyota Cressida. The Toyota was a piece of crap.
I was
> very glad to see it limp away with it's cheap palstic, crummy paint, and
> malfunctiong transmission.
>
> Ed
>
Cressidas suck, but the Hilux utes are pretty much unbreakable. also have
very good offroad abilities and can reguarly beat a Jeep Wrangler, the Surfs
aren't so good but are still solid, while the Corollas are very economical.
Z
z'Gnome
Guest
I've found that if a vehicle is suitably maintained, it usually lasts
quite a bit longer than it would otherwise.
My '87 Ranger 4x4 (2.9L V6) has 272,000 mi and is still running strong ...
My wife wants me to get a new truck, but ...
1) I *know* this truck
2) It is paid for
and
3) It has my butt print in the left seat -- I don't care to break
in another seat so soon
z'Gnome
>> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
>> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
>> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
>> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
>>
>> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
>>
>> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
>> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
>> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
>> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
>> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
>> > vary.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > zxcvar wrote:
>> >
>> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
>> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>> >
"... after the sun falls on Old Earth,
and the forest becomes very quiet, after all
have gone to their rest, then ...
if you listen very closely,
you can hear him.
If you look very
carefully, you can
see him. And if you
ask very politely,
z'Gnome will come
out to play..."
z'Gnome
quite a bit longer than it would otherwise.
My '87 Ranger 4x4 (2.9L V6) has 272,000 mi and is still running strong ...
My wife wants me to get a new truck, but ...
1) I *know* this truck
2) It is paid for
and
3) It has my butt print in the left seat -- I don't care to break
in another seat so soon
z'Gnome
>> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
>> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
>> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I would
>> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
>>
>> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than Barnies
>>
>> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based on
>> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are the
>> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I plan
>> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
>> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage may
>> > vary.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > zxcvar wrote:
>> >
>> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
>> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
>> >
"... after the sun falls on Old Earth,
and the forest becomes very quiet, after all
have gone to their rest, then ...
if you listen very closely,
you can hear him.
If you look very
carefully, you can
see him. And if you
ask very politely,
z'Gnome will come
out to play..."
z'Gnome
G
Gripper
Guest
check out this guys problem: Posted Nov 2, 1.30am.
Note: I never replaced anything in the front end of my 4Runner and I had
150,000km. And there's no ratles to be foung either.
"I have a '97 Dodge Dakota SLT Club Cab with the 5.3l engine. At 70k
miles my driver side upper joint went, at 80k miles my passenger upper
joint went. They were both fairly expensive to replace and now at 95k
miles the driver upper joint is starting to squeak a lot again...
AFAIK there is no aftermarket fix, the geometry of the front-end seems
to be to blame for it. By the way in case you are wondering the only
time my truck goes offroad is when I pull it into the back yard to
hook up the boat trailer. I would think the 4x4s wouldn't have this
problem since they would by neccessity have a more robust front end
design but I don't know if that is neccessarily the case or not."
"Gripper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ran over Barnie. So add another 50% for intensive repairs. (I had to
make
> sure I got him good.)
> + I tried to BBQ Big Bird but the flames didn't go out the sunroof
properly.
> Add another 20%
>
>
> "Blaster!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have found a 5% difference. But then again there is a 6% margin of
> error.
> >
> >
> > "zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
Note: I never replaced anything in the front end of my 4Runner and I had
150,000km. And there's no ratles to be foung either.
"I have a '97 Dodge Dakota SLT Club Cab with the 5.3l engine. At 70k
miles my driver side upper joint went, at 80k miles my passenger upper
joint went. They were both fairly expensive to replace and now at 95k
miles the driver upper joint is starting to squeak a lot again...
AFAIK there is no aftermarket fix, the geometry of the front-end seems
to be to blame for it. By the way in case you are wondering the only
time my truck goes offroad is when I pull it into the back yard to
hook up the boat trailer. I would think the 4x4s wouldn't have this
problem since they would by neccessity have a more robust front end
design but I don't know if that is neccessarily the case or not."
"Gripper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ran over Barnie. So add another 50% for intensive repairs. (I had to
make
> sure I got him good.)
> + I tried to BBQ Big Bird but the flames didn't go out the sunroof
properly.
> Add another 20%
>
>
> "Blaster!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have found a 5% difference. But then again there is a 6% margin of
> error.
> >
> >
> > "zxcvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with the
> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
G
Gripper
Guest
"I've found that if a vehicle is suitably maintained, it usually lasts quite
a bit longer than it would otherwise."
That's is BS.
That's the American car owner mentality.. repair, repair, It's starting to
need more and more repairs , lets avoid more repairs and replace the vehicle
every 3 to 7 years.
Toyota owner mentality.. #1 If it aint broke don't touch it, if it breaks ..
repair and go back to #1. Life expected from vehical..at least 15 years.
By that time you'ill have all your loans paid up and can afford a new
Toyota.
I mistreated my 1985 Corolla hatchback so bad my neighbour went and bought a
used one. Then a year later I sold him my Corolla and his son used it for 2
more years. 394,000km
As soon as my Fords saw a garage it would pull towards it all the time...
+ On a quiet night you could hear it rust..
"z'Gnome" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've found that if a vehicle is suitably maintained, it usually lasts
> quite a bit longer than it would otherwise.
>
> My '87 Ranger 4x4 (2.9L V6) has 272,000 mi and is still running strong ...
>
> My wife wants me to get a new truck, but ...
> 1) I *know* this truck
> 2) It is paid for
>
> and
>
> 3) It has my butt print in the left seat -- I don't care to break
> in another seat so soon
>
> z'Gnome
>
> >> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
> >> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
> >> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I
would
> >> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
> >>
> >> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than
Barnies
> >>
> >> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based
on
> >> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are
the
> >> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I
plan
> >> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> >> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage
may
> >> > vary.
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >> > zxcvar wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with
the
> >> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >> >
>
> "... after the sun falls on Old Earth,
> and the forest becomes very quiet, after all
> have gone to their rest, then ...
> if you listen very closely,
> you can hear him.
> If you look very
> carefully, you can
> see him. And if you
> ask very politely,
> z'Gnome will come
> out to play..."
>
> z'Gnome
a bit longer than it would otherwise."
That's is BS.
That's the American car owner mentality.. repair, repair, It's starting to
need more and more repairs , lets avoid more repairs and replace the vehicle
every 3 to 7 years.
Toyota owner mentality.. #1 If it aint broke don't touch it, if it breaks ..
repair and go back to #1. Life expected from vehical..at least 15 years.
By that time you'ill have all your loans paid up and can afford a new
Toyota.
I mistreated my 1985 Corolla hatchback so bad my neighbour went and bought a
used one. Then a year later I sold him my Corolla and his son used it for 2
more years. 394,000km
As soon as my Fords saw a garage it would pull towards it all the time...
+ On a quiet night you could hear it rust..
"z'Gnome" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've found that if a vehicle is suitably maintained, it usually lasts
> quite a bit longer than it would otherwise.
>
> My '87 Ranger 4x4 (2.9L V6) has 272,000 mi and is still running strong ...
>
> My wife wants me to get a new truck, but ...
> 1) I *know* this truck
> 2) It is paid for
>
> and
>
> 3) It has my butt print in the left seat -- I don't care to break
> in another seat so soon
>
> z'Gnome
>
> >> If Fords were so reliable you wouldn't need to buy so many, their stock
> >> wouldn't be so low, and more people would buy them.
> >> According to my figures I'd be close to104 years old by the time I
would
> >> have had bought 10 Toys our Hondas.
> >>
> >> If I were driving at that age I'd be running over alot more than
Barnies
> >>
> >> "C. E. White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > This question is impossible to answer meaningfully. However - based
on
> >> > my personal experience only (one Toyta vs. 10+ Fords) - Toyotas are
the
> >> > least reliable, most expensive to repair vehicles on the planet. I
plan
> >> > to never buy another Toyota. Toyota parts are expensive, difficult to
> >> > find, hard to install, and fail at regualr intervals. Your mileage
may
> >> > vary.
> >> >
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >> > zxcvar wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Greetings! How does the repair costs of Toyota cars compare with
the
> >> > > repair of American cars? With thanks.
> >> >
>
> "... after the sun falls on Old Earth,
> and the forest becomes very quiet, after all
> have gone to their rest, then ...
> if you listen very closely,
> you can hear him.
> If you look very
> carefully, you can
> see him. And if you
> ask very politely,
> z'Gnome will come
> out to play..."
>
> z'Gnome
M
Me
Guest
"Gripper" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "I've found that if a vehicle is suitably maintained, it usually lasts
quite
> a bit longer than it would otherwise."
> That's is BS.
By suitably maintained, I think he means doing the 5-10,000km services...
well, you can probably get by without doing them (I have from time to time)
but if you don't do SOME kind of maintenance, then I think you'll find the
same car off the same lot that DID do the maintenance would last longer.
By the way, I drive a Toyota.
Ian
