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Converting a P38 to tow a fifth wheel caravan
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But can it in UK? max 3.5 ton for trailer if not it is HGV?
I think the way they work is they can be 4.2 ton say, 3.5 tons is on the axles of the trailer and the other 700kg is on the back of the pick up through the hitch
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Isn't the 38' rated at 6.7ton gross train weight? 2.25 +4.5 trailer??
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When thinks are not going well I have thought long and hard about putting the land rover in a canal or leaving it on a train track (that is just the land rover not me)
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I'm refusing to read this, because we are here to help you. (talk you out of it)....
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rather than do that just donate to someone Like me perhaps
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Also I’m sure the length/width of the van means you need a commercial to tow it.
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WOW Wouldn't get up our street but what a way to block it
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this looks like a simple conversion
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That's insane
On the plus side he cannot make it any more unreliable!
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But you would love one, wander what it does if you brake hard?
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3,500kg on the trailer, mainly because of the low range which allows you to tow that weight from a hill-start. I have to day I had to go up a 1 in 3 hill with a digger on the back and it definitely felt it - I could see the temperature needle climbing!
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What digger?
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But you would have somewhere to sleep/make tea while waiting to be recovered
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Required for a job. Cannot recall what it was now. Had to tow a dump-truck too and that must have been a couple of tons. Trailer was 750kg on its own. It did it but it had to work hard on the hills around here.
Lightweight artics is a big and contentious subject. There is not necessarily any need to go to 'Murrica' .... the 'Fifth Wheel Co.' in N. Wales will tell you where its at in UK terms. Older drivers may benefit from C1+E entitlement on their licence which can give a useful increase in train weight,........... trailers and vehicles built/adapted post 2012 require proper CE marking and approvals (expensive for one off's). A few years back quite a few local authorities commissioned various waste trucks and other variations for urban use (not with P38's it has to be said!) but it didn't catch on and some of those now serve as horse boxes and the like. There are companies in Holland and France who build specialist commercial trailers and of course the Fifth Wheel Co. who are caravan orientated. The big problem has always been understanding the letter of the law which in this country at least is generally poorly understood, and can lead to confusion if you get stopped. I think it is a shame, I had a sawmill which would have been much improved as an artic trailer and was a pig on twin central axles. Like most people I eventually concluded it was too much hassle and never took it any further, but there is lots out there if you google the subject.
The coolest idea for sure would be a P38 version of that VW, ....
The coolest idea for sure would be a P38 version of that VW, ....
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