Coding IKE and ZKE L322

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

Hi guys.
First, sorry for my bad english.
I drive L322 TD6 (M57 engine). I want to stop bloody warning gong that the key is in the ignition lock.
I try it with BMW Scanner 1.4, but IKE block send "No coding data retrieved" message. I can't also read coding data, only EEPROM.
I try it with T4 - no such option in menu.
I try AllComms - no such option in it.
I understand that if I generate right ZCS data, I can code it with NCSExpert, but I think this is pretty imposible to generate right ZCS data, because of differences in the structure between BMW ZCS data and LR LCS data. And I find only one thread in internet about this in bmwcoders (registration is closed by admin) and there also no final right information about it.
Is there another software option to disable the bloody warning gong, and also set up a windows button to close and open windows not only one time after turn off car?
Thanks!

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

Can you tell us is the key actually in when you get the warning?

J

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Can you tell us is the key actually in when you get the warning?

J

Yes, key is in ignition. At my BMW E53 I did it with NCSExpert for 5 min, but at RR I can't find the way. Yes, I can plug out the cable, but the gong is also for park distance control and other functions, and plug the gable of is not a option.

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

Well it’s there as a warning for a reason.
But I believe you can turn it off with IID Gap tool, but not 100% as we have no key only the remote so don’t get that warning, you would need to do some research.
You don’t say what year?

@gstuart may know he likes his gap as do we

J.

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

Hi

I have seen that option to turn the warning off on the gap iid, but always have to check on each model via the diagnostics

Also believe u can pull the fuse to stop it, only of course that’s nothing else is on the circuit

Hope that helps

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Well it’s there as a warning for a reason.
But I believe you can turn it off with IID Gap tool, but not 100% as we have no key only the remote so don’t get that warning, you would need to do some research.
You don’t say what year?

@gstuart may know he likes his gap as do we

J.

Hi

Appreciate the tag and always happy to help where I can

Indeed is an option on mine , seen it also on a lot of other models , depending on year as well if it’s covered

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

gstuart said:
Hi

Appreciate the tag and always happy to help where I can

Indeed is an option on mine , seen it also on a lot of other models , depending on year as well if it’s covered

Gary I know you know your way around your gap and as the D3 is pretty much electronically/mechanically the same as the early L322 I figured you may have seen it

.

Jon

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Gary I know you know your way around your gap and as the D3 is pretty much electronically/mechanically the same as the early L322 I figured you may have seen it.

Jon

Hi Jon

Many thks , I blame the D3 for me knowing my way round the iid so well , lol

In having to use it a lot , but got to admit great bit of kit and would have been near impossible trying to find faults without one

Always think if owning a modern landy then diagnostics is a must

Took what felt a life time when I had to trace an air bag fault , 2 x months later and saved a fortune by not having to go to a garage , had to replace curtain airbags then found the drivers seat airbag was the last fault

Also Land Rover said u can’t get the liner out, I managed to do it by taking the side lockers out and very carefully got the liner out without any marks

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

You sir have the patience of a saint

working through your probs.

We haven’t quite got to that amount of use of our Gap yet but have to say it’s very good where we have used it so far.

J

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Well it’s there as a warning for a reason.
But I believe you can turn it off with IID Gap tool, but not 100% as we have no key only the remote so don’t get that warning, you would need to do some research.
You don’t say what year?

@gstuart may know he likes his gap as do we
J.

I don't think that there is a reason for warning gong. Radio/tv/nav will switch off after 30 min on switched off engine (battery drain protect), car will not lock by itself, what is the reason?
I send a mail to manufacture of diagnostic, waiting for answer, because I don't want to pay 600$ for another diagnostic.

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Gary I know you know your way around your gap and as the D3 is pretty much electronically/mechanically the same as the early L322 I figured you may have seen it.

Jon

No, D3 is with ford ecus, L322 with M57 engine have BMW ecus, but they are codet with LCS, not ZCS.

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

rusnache said:
I don't think that there is a reason for warning gong. Radio/tv/nav will switch off after 30 min on switched off engine (battery drain protect), car will not lock by itself, what is the reason?
I send a mail to manufacture of diagnostic, waiting for answer, because I don't want to pay 600$ for another diagnostic.

Maybe the car does shut down but if you forget your keys it can be nicked or won’t self lock ( not sure on the self locking).

Leaving keys in the car is not the best thing to do.

J

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
Maybe the car does shut down but if you forget your keys it can be nicked or won’t self lock ( not sure on the self locking).

Leaving keys in the car is not the best thing to do.

J

It's only warning you if the dor is open, and only drivers dor. Somethimes you need to do something with opened dor and key in position 1 in car, and it's ring, ring, ring, bloody sound.
This came to RR from BMW, but there is no reason, BMW never self lock with keys in ignition lock, only if you drive and activate this option, on switched off car, bmw can't self lock.

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

So close the door

The self lock was a guess, I don’t know the early 322.

I also know nothing of the LCS/ZCS you talk of.

If it’s that annoying wait and see what Pat says and decide if you want to spend the money. But it’s money well spent for other problems you will encounter as far as I am concerned, as long as they do your year.

J

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
You sir have the patience of a saint working through your probs.

We haven’t quite got to that amount of use of our Gap yet but have to say it’s very good where we have used it so far.

J

Many thks, must admit did have to walk away a few times for a cuppa and sanity check, lol

many garages wouldn’t touch it, others wanted at least £500 to just remove the head liner and god knows what the labour charge would have been but think it would have been at least a grand

Basically I bought it as a project and the airbag light was on so paid peanuts for it , then found 2 x airbags had been cut out , the door impact sensor had been knocked and they fitted a new door , so instead of fitting new curtain airbags they cut them out , drivers seat belt trigged and seat airbag only went to first stage fire but didn’t fire completely , but caused an error

Think I spent around £150 and all sorted , 2 x curtain airbags, drivers seat pre tensioner , seat airbag

Best bit was the gap iid allowed me to reset the crash signal that was in the Srs ecu and the eurika mine the airbag light went out, happy days

Blimey I’m gassing again

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
So close the door

The self lock was a guess, I don’t know the early 322.

I also know nothing of the LCS/ZCS you talk of.

If it’s that annoying wait and see what Pat says and decide if you want to spend the money. But it’s money well spent for other problems you will encounter as far as I am concerned, as long as they do your year.

J

Heh, closing the door is not possible everytime

marjon said:
So close the door

The self lock was a guess, I don’t know the early 322.

I also know nothing of the LCS/ZCS you talk of.

If it’s that annoying wait and see what Pat says and decide if you want to spend the money. But it’s money well spent for other problems you will encounter as far as I am concerned, as long as they do your year.

J

Closing the door is not a option when you do something and you need opened driver door. IID Tool can't turn off the gong and IID Tool cand do same things that BMW Scanner can do, on newest LR everything is possible with SDD or Bosch KTS series, but oldest one..... Any other ideas? Also the GM module have a setting to let you control windows without key in ignition. But of course in RR option is set to one emergency open/close without a key in ignition. And there are many other options that are not activated.

marjon · Aug 2, 2019

rusnache said:
Closing the door is not a option when you do something and you need opened driver door

What operation/job is this required?

rusnache said:
on newest LR everything is possible with SDD or Bosch KTS series

Well that’s a bunch of money

rusnache said:
Also the GM module have a setting to let you control windows without key in ignition

GM module? Why is this relevant?

rusnache said:
But of course in RR option is set to one emergency open/close without a key in ignition.

???

It maybe a language barrier but you need to explain a bit more in detail as to why you need this?

J

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

Hi

What year is ur rangie plse, thks

gstuart · Aug 2, 2019

Also don’t know if this is any use

http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2015/07/30/lots-of-diy-coding-with-bmw-scanner-v1-4-0-pa-soft-on-win-7/

rusnache · Aug 2, 2019

marjon said:
What operation/job is this required?

Well that’s a bunch of money

GM module? Why is this relevant?

???

It maybe a language barrier but you need to explain a bit more in detail as to why you need this?

J

It's a lot of cracked SDD, cable start from 20$ on ebay.
Testing audio on you door, testing other modules and etc. and just play music when you park somewhere in the forest.
GM is a Body Module (General Module) in it are all body electronic settings.
Maybe, but let me explain - I can open windows only in position 3 of the key in ignition lock or when the car is working, in position 2 or 1 I can only open window, and after that I can't close it. I need to put the key in position 3, to close the window. This is very annoying when you park the car, open the door and see that the window is opened. You can't just close the window, you must first put the key in position 3, and only after that you will be able to close the window. This all came from BMW.When I purchase my brand new X5 E53, all this options (no warning gong, open/close window without key in ignition, comfort closing/opening - close windows and sunroof if they are opened with holding the closing button on the key and others) was paid, but they are only string in program of ECUs, this is BMW price forming politic - we put all modules with all functions, but we will stop it from the code, and if you want them - you'll pay for it.

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