Chassis Differences

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Paul N.E Scotland

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HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires chassis
and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a S2a and S3
chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to retain the 2a
bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62' carawagon/camper ,
lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which will be getting broken
later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any information and or help with
this. Paul.


 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:07:51 -0000, "Paul N.E Scotland"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires chassis
>and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a S2a and S3
>chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to retain the 2a
>bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62' carawagon/camper ,
>lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which will be getting broken
>later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any information and or help with
>this. Paul.

I dont think that there are any real differences between the 2A and 3
chassis'.

I think the only difference may be a slight one in the brackets that
hold the rear tub on behind the seatbox - but this doesnt mean much as
I think half of them still line up.

There are also a few slight differences in things like the lip on the
gearbox crossmember which you have to grind off if you put a S3
gearbox in a S2 chassis - but this shouldnt trouble you!

Bulkheads are interchangeable - the mountings are the same, so your 2A
bulkhead will be fine on the S3 chassis. A lot of people prefer the
older design.

 
"Paul N.E Scotland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires
> chassis and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a
> S2a and S3 chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to
> retain the 2a bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62'
> carawagon/camper , lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which
> will be getting broken later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any
> information and or help with this. Paul.
Note: As the law stands if the S3 chassis has already been registed on the
road you will at best have to use the S3 chassis and reg no. and at worse
use the S3 chassis no and get a 'Q' plate. i.e your S2a won't officially
exist any longer. Check out the DVLA site for more details.
However - there are lots of 'incorrect' Land Rovers (and others) out
there.....

Jon


 
Paul N.E Scotland <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires
> chassis and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between
> a S2a and S3 chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but
> want to retain the 2a bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also
> have a 62' carawagon/camper , lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a
> Dormie which will be getting broken later in the year and sold off.
> Thanks for any information and or help with this. Paul.

I've been led to believe that the 2a has webbing on the crossmember below
the bell housing which isn't present on the S3.

Other than that I'm not aware of any differences other than the 1 tonne
spring hangars to look out for.

I could be wrong though, I've never explored the webbing thing.

Lee D


 
On or around Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:25:20 +0000, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:07:51 -0000, "Paul N.E Scotland"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires chassis
>>and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a S2a and S3
>>chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to retain the 2a
>>bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62' carawagon/camper ,
>>lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which will be getting broken
>>later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any information and or help with
>>this. Paul.
>
>I dont think that there are any real differences between the 2A and 3
>chassis'.
>

I had an idea that station wagon chassis are not the same as ordinary ones.
Worth working out what the camper is built on, if so.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Blue: The sky is blue for a reason. Blue light is a source of strength
and harmony in the cosmos. Create a blue light in your life by
telephoning the police
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 

"Paul N.E Scotland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires
> chassis and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a
> S2a and S3 chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to
> retain the 2a bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62'
> carawagon/camper , lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which
> will be getting broken later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any
> information and or help with this. Paul.

A few years ago I put a 1979 series III chassis on to a 1961 series II and
everything fitted ok.
Richard


>
>


 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:33:56 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Paul N.E Scotland <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>funny about:
>> HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires
>> chassis and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between
>> a S2a and S3 chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but
>> want to retain the 2a bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also
>> have a 62' carawagon/camper , lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a
>> Dormie which will be getting broken later in the year and sold off.
>> Thanks for any information and or help with this. Paul.
>
>I've been led to believe that the 2a has webbing on the crossmember below
>the bell housing which isn't present on the S3.

It does. Try and fit a S3 gearbox in a 2A and you'll be scratching you
head over why it doesnt sit right until you look at where the clutch
goes and see that its touchin the chassis and needs a bit of polishing
with the grinder.


>

 
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:25:54 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I had an idea that station wagon chassis are not the same as ordinary ones.
>Worth working out what the camper is built on, if so.

aah yeas. I broke a S3 SW too so should really know this!

I think it *may* have had an extra outrigger to hold bits up but i
cant remember now. I do remember that it didnt have any huge
differences!

 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> I had an idea that station wagon chassis are not the same as ordinary ones.
> Worth working out what the camper is built on, if so.

On a 110 SW the difference is an extra bolt-on crossmember. May be the
same on the earlier models as well, don't know.

Regards

William MacLeod

 
On or around 23 Jan 2006 05:43:23 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> I had an idea that station wagon chassis are not the same as ordinary ones.
>> Worth working out what the camper is built on, if so.
>
>On a 110 SW the difference is an extra bolt-on crossmember. May be the
>same on the earlier models as well, don't know.

it's to do with the lowered floor at the front of the rear body where the
middle doors are, ISTR.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45
 
Land Rover Magazine Dec 2004 has an feature on the differences between a 2
door 109 chassis and a station wagon chassis. This issue is available from
the back issues dept. at www.lrm.co.uk

Ian McDonald


"Paul N.E Scotland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HI all, I have a 68' S2a Martin Walters Dormobile that now requires
> chassis and bulkhead. Can anyone tell me what the differances between a
> S2a and S3 chassis are. I have a chance of a cheap S3 Chassis but want to
> retain the 2a bulkhead etc, I prefer its simplicity. I also have a 62'
> carawagon/camper , lifting roof and bunks etc similar to a Dormie which
> will be getting broken later in the year and sold off. Thanks for any
> information and or help with this. Paul.
>


 
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