Classic Changing EFi to carbs

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damrabbit

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Having problems with rough running on my 3.5 efi classic I think due to the air flow meter which is a flapper type and due to the cost of a new one was looking into changing to carbs for cost and simplicity

Is this as easy as I imagine i.e remove efi slap on carbs hook up cables/fuel pipes and bingo job done
 
Having problems with rough running on my 3.5 efi classic I think due to the air flow meter which is a flapper type and due to the cost of a new one was looking into changing to carbs for cost and simplicity

Is this as easy as I imagine i.e remove efi slap on carbs hook up cables/fuel pipes and bingo job done

The EFI fuel lift pump will be too much for the carbs you will need to change that.
 
Silly question maybe but have you tried a known good AFM to eliminate possible faults with you own? I've owned three EFI 'flappers' & only ever had a one problematic AFM, cured by a used £30 replacement.
 
The flapper system is quite simple, easy to fix and not too unreliable when its running.
And of course gives more grunt than carbs.

What is wrong with it?
 
If it's a pair of su or Stromberg's you have lying around, the end result will be disappointing

On paper at least there is not much difference in torque (though the carb version develops peak grunt at a lower RPM) but of course you lose around 35 bhp.
You also have to bear in mind that (according to the workshop manual) the valve timing of an EFI is different, so would that effect the resultant performance if you convert?
 
Is it legal over there to retro an engine?
Our anti pollution laws prevent retroversion of fuel, exhaust and engine management system, so if your ride is efi you cannot retro fit carbs, likewise you cannot fit an engine say from a 1980 model car into a 1990 model car of the same make, all because of supposed improvement in emmission standards.
The vehicle still has to meet as a minimum standard the rules of the year it was made.
The reverse is permissable, you can re-power an older car with a later spec engine, and not necessarily an engine from the same make, but the conversion must be signed off by a licenced inspector/engineer. Fitting carbs to an originally efi'd engine would score you a failed roadworthy. The same applies to Catalytic converters, if your car originally had one it has to be there, though they never check if it is functional, (yet), there's a bit of an industry cutting them apart, gutting and replacing them to look "as original".
Most later model cars with all the polution gear on eventually manage to pollute more than the original older non pollution gear ones once the gear stuffs up, in my opinion.
 
Is it legal over there to retro an engine?
For a vehicle of this age, the short answer is yes.
It would have to pass the >1985 co hc limits on the emissions test.
You could even fit a pre 75 engine and be tested for no visible smoke only. If the cylinder capacity changes, you send off the log book with the changes declared and they send a new one back.
Same as you with cats and more stringent emissions standards
 
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