Cellular damper or normal bog standard steering damper.

Which is better from the 2 as i do need to replace this but have the 2 options. do they both perform the same ?

personally i would just go with bog standard. save your hard earned for other bits and pieces....

just had a look at the price for genuine damper £72-rimmerbros/lrseries, a cellular is cheaper!!! Should get it cheaper off egay.

loopy ****ers
Steering Damper Range Rover P38 from Brookwells
unless you like parting with lots of cash

Steering Damper Range Rover P38 from Brookwells

£17--Thats more like it!!!!

tommo138 said:

Steering Damper Range Rover P38 from Brookwells

£17--Thats more like it!!!!

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Rimmers is same price £17 + vat for non genuine.

kds said:

Rimmers is same price £17 + vat for non genuine.

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Plus the genuine and none genuine are more than likely manufactured on the same production line in the same factory.

wammers said:

Plus the genuine and none genuine are more than likely manufactured on the same production line in the same factory.

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Somewhere in darkest China

Datatek said:

Somewhere in darkest China

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Yup that's about it. Same thing, same production line, on a one for Land Rover two for Britpart basis i would think. Or in the shadow factory across the road. Same as Nike, Reebok genuine none genuine trainers. Sad thing is they all cost peanuts to make genuine or none genuine. But the retailers distiguish them by adding 500% profit to the so called genuine ones.

Wammers is right.
I was a Machine Tool Service Engineer for over 25 years in the U.K. and visited loads of factories producing components for the major manufacturers and made a selection of parts from circlips to wiring harnesses and filters to gaskets. The stuff which was packed in manufacturers packaging was no different to that sold as "Spurious"...made on the same machines using the same materials. Most of the stuff made today is of overseas origin anyway (Eastern Europe and the far east)- as the UK manufacturing base is virtually non existant....just look at the labels on the "Top" brands of domestic appliances and consumer electronics to see where they are made !!!
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Quite correct Irish. Then we get to the greedy western companies who sent their manufacturing to China, India, Taiwan, Korea then discovered the markets were flooded with so called counterfeit goods. Because these people were making western goods in shadow factories from the tooling drawings supplied for the genuine articles. That is the reason the great Global warming con was started. The western governments fearful that ALL manufacturing is going east picked a time of natural warming which occurs on a regular basis, to blame man made CO2 output on. Then tried and are still trying to prevent growth in the east by getting them to agree to cutting CO2 output down. Knowing this would put their costs up so the west could be competative.

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Yup that's about it. Same thing, same production line, on a one for Land Rover two for Britpart basis i would think. Or in the shadow factory across the road. Same as Nike, Reebok genuine none genuine trainers. Sad thing is they all cost peanuts to make genuine or none genuine. But the retailers distiguish them by adding 500% profit to the so called genuine ones.

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sorry that's bollocks, complete bollocks - the majority of Britpart "products" are designed with cost of production as the first design criteria, being fit for purpose and ability to meet a specification come way down the list - OEM items are designed and manufactured with performance and specification as the primary criteria

i will be happy for you to PROVE me wrong

Sean said:

sorry that's bollocks, complete bollocks - the majority of Britpart "products" are designed with cost of production as the first design criteria, being fit for purpose and ability to meet a specification come way down the list - OEM items are designed and manufactured with performance and specification as the primary criteria

i will be happy for you to PROVE me wrong

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No need to prove you wrong. You just are so be happy.

I have a close friend who works out of HK for a quality control organisation and regularly visits manufacturing plants in China - mainly clothing and consumer goods from our conversations - and you will get Armani priced clothing coming out of the same door as Primark. I'm a regular visitor and the choice of consumer electronics over in the far east outstrips anything over here in Europe. They're all manufactured in the same area from by and large the same sorts of components. Hey, there are even places where you can spec your own DVD or whatever and then final options is which badge/label you want on the front

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No need to prove you wrong. You just are so be happy.

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you can't prove me wrong can you ? - making such statements and then failing to support them is a nonsense pal

telling peeps that LR and Britpart parts are made on the same line is utter crap, it gives a false impression about Britpart "products" and does nothing to support why there are some many people across numerous forums who will tell you NOT to use Britpart

why do you think they are oft referred to as Sh1tPart ?

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Quite correct Irish. Then we get to the greedy western companies who sent their manufacturing to China, India, Taiwan, Korea then discovered the markets were flooded with so called counterfeit goods. Because these people were making western goods in shadow factories from the tooling drawings supplied for the genuine articles. That is the reason the great Global warming con was started. The western governments fearful that ALL manufacturing is going east picked a time of natural warming which occurs on a regular basis, to blame man made CO2 output on. Then tried and are still trying to prevent growth in the east by getting them to agree to cutting CO2 output down. Knowing this would put their costs up so the west could be competative.

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While I'm pretty much in broad agreement about this, I also think you're wrong about the Britpart stuff being made on the same lines as Genuine Landrover stuff ... Have you ever seen, measured and compared parts together? I have, and for the most part the Britpart items have wider tolerances, cruder edges/finishes and often made in a different manner .. they use cut and pressed screw threads instead of rolled, for instance ... all made down to a cost not to a quality.

I think some Britpart items are reasonable for the cost, I have some of their springs and have no issues with them ... but I would bet my bottom dollar that the steel used for them is inferior quality to standard.

Britpart are cheap for a reason, mainly 'cos they're made cheaply.

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I have a close friend who works out of HK for a quality control organisation and regularly visits manufacturing plants in China - mainly clothing and consumer goods from our conversations - and you will get Armani priced clothing coming out of the same door as Primark. I'm a regular visitor and the choice of consumer electronics over in the far east outstrips anything over here in Europe. They're all manufactured in the same area from by and large the same sorts of components. Hey, there are even places where you can spec your own DVD or whatever and then final options is which badge/label you want on the front

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do you buy the cheapest tyres, the cheapest oil seals, the cheapest baked beans, the cheapest bread, the cheapest shoes you can find ?

if what your saying is true we might all as well spend as little as possible on EVERYTHING seeing as there's every tyre comes from the same factory, every can of baked beans comes from the same factory ...... or is made using the same beans or same components

if peeps are happy to replace suspension bushes, oil seals, pads, discs, exhaust, UJs etc as often as they replace their vehicle fluids then Britpart is the place to shop

is very simple, and at the end of the day it's your money you'r wasting

buy cheap buy trice

The Britpart "factory" made Water Pump which has done over 40000miles without any problem. This had to be fitted after the genuine LR pump packed up and leaked like a sieve after just 3000 miles. The Britpart Starter motor from their Electrical Factory has been on for over 5 years without problems.
The Armstrong Shocks (Made in Sheffield) are just about ready for replacement after 60000 on Irish roads.
Finally, the Coopers oil filters used when I do a service are made near Abergavenny..where the majority of "Original" filters are turned out in fancy boxes.
Ferodo make my brake pads on the same production line, using the same materials and process as "Genuine" products.

All of these manufacturers and others do not tell the workforce "Right folks, you can turn out ****e now and dig all the rejects out because we have finished the genuine parts run"
If you want proof...just look at the Japanese car industry recently with all the recalls following the fitting of "Genuine" parts and assemblies. Lets wait and see what happens when TATA get their feet well under the table !!
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Armstrong, Coopers, Ferodo et al are well known manufacturers in their own right, the fact that Britpart sell their products is irrelevant - it's the Britpart "own brand" of products that are problematical

am sure there's plenty of people who have stories of "my Britpart xyz" has lasted years - that may well be true, but for every 1 happy customer there'll be 1000 unhappy ones

that's why Britpart have such a good reputation for selling CRAP, if you believe that not to be true then may i politely suggest you need your head extracting from the ground