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can I use a rear door spare wheel carrier on my bonnet??

Discussion in 'Defender 90 / 110 / 130' started by Mr G Imp, Oct 21, 2020.

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  1. Mr G Imp

    Mr G Imp Active Member

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    I need to fit the spare wheel to the bonnet - can I use a rear door carrier? mainly for cost £500 for the Land Rover mount kit no thanks !! ....also easy availability. has anyone done this? I can't attach it anywhere else as its a pick up and I need the space in back as I have ordered a tonneau cover. at the moment its strapped to the back under the rear windows so has to move.
    so if the answer is yes I can - which one do I buy ?
     
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    mick 1986 Well-Known Member

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    Im not certain, but I think the rear spare wheel mount sits further away from the door than the bonnet mount does, so may reduce visibility more than a standard mount. I personally would try and fabricate a “standard” bonnet mount.
     
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    My spare is held by ratchet straps in the rear against the centre bulkhead but then it is a hardtop and I don’t often fill the back. It might be worth keeping an eye on eBay for a bonnet with a spare wheel carrier already fitted, like an ex-MoD one. They do come up from time to time.
     
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    Sounds like a bad idea to me, I can't see a mount designed for the rear door fitting the bonnet without putting up a fight.
    The underside of the bonnet is nothing like the inside of the back door and the standard bonnet mount has reinforcing on the underside.
    The standard bonnet mount also has a strengthened prop.
     
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    tottot Well-Known Member

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    No is the answer . Best is bonnet with dished centre. There are several bonnets with holder on the fle bay.
     
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    A swing away rear wheel carrier would do the job fine.
     
  7. Mr G Imp

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    apparently this will not fit my 90 according to the guy I spoke to at "bearmach" - its a pick up cab with a drop down back door, but may have been a van originally as it has holes for the side door hinges. I would go for the back swing carrier if it would fit on easy
     
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    The rear tailgate can be converted to side-opening, which should work.
     
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    could I attach a door mount and wheel to the tailgate !?
     
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    I’ve not done it myself or seen it done but I dare say it’s possible. Personally, I’d look at a swing away carrier and a side opening tailgate.
     
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    Search Ebay for this item number. I’m on my phone so can’t link to it.
    230779207874
    It uses 2 hinges and then secures to the LHS antiluce pin.
     
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    Try and have a look at other trucks with swing away carrier, can not see how this would not work with a side opening tailgate which is an easy mod.
     
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    Same as above. You can get swing away designed for drop down tail gates, they hinge out first and then you lower the tail gate rather than being a single unit like the ones designed for a rear door.
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    Or as stated by others get a second hand bonnet (probably military) will all of the fitting you require as they ar n ot expensive. You will also find the bonnet then comes with all of the relevant reinforcing rather than having to add additional reinforcement to your current bonnet.
     
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    You can buy the bonnet mount kit for much less than £500. I got a brand new one from PA Blanchard for £206 delivered, that was August this year.
    It includes reinforcing brackets for the bonnet frame, and it's easy enough to fit - took me a couple of hours.
     
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    That’s brilliant ! They have them in as well...

     
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    There are a couple of swingaway carriers would do the job but the one I recommend is the Pivlock pattern (trade name was the Pivlock, made by Bullivent Engineering but I believe Bearmach market it now), had one on my S111 back in the 1980's and it is still available.
    Works in total isolation of the tailgate so even if you convert your tailgate to side-hinged (as I have) it doesn't connect. Locks in the open position so if you are parked on a hill rummaging in the back it doesn't keep trying to close on you. Just bolts to the crossmember-tab and the top of the tub so no weight is added to anything which is likely to wear or sag.

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    Of course unless you needed to retain the drop-down tailgate there is nothing stopping you converting yours to side-hinged and then adding a conventional swingaway carrier to take the weight, I did this to my 90 20-years ago and it is still working perfectly. All the weight is taken by the crossmember and the tailgate opens & closes in one easy operation.

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    As above, just buy a n ex-military bonnet, job done. The reason for ex-military and not std converted bonnet is that military bonnets have additional support built into the bonnet frame members, see here

     
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    The reason there is a solid prop is that the weight of the spare wheel can collapse the scissor prop
     
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    Also definitely fit the extra 2 bonnet buffers in the middle or the bonnet rattles and shimmies
     
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