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the baron

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Hi looking for help again have been reading the land rover book and it say do not push button from D to N and do not go from drive to neutral dose this mean when sat at traffic lights i have to move to park then back to drive bit confused with there wording :doh:
 
Hi baron,

I had to think about this one, even had to get the handbook out.

I don't think you are 100% correct in what you say.

To go from D to N can only be done after pressing the release button.

To go from N to D you do not need to press the button.

When I stop at a traffic light I used to just sit with my foot on the brake, but I was told that doing that can cause extra unnecessary wear on the friction bands in the auto-box.

What I do now is when I stop, I press the release and move into N.

You then have a choice of simply keeping your foot on the pedal, or setting the h/brake, (which I only do when it's an obviously long delay e.g. at level crossings)

To set off again you just need to knock the lever back into D - no need to press the release button.

I do this so subconsciously & unthinkingly after 95K miles of using this Jatco box that I had to really think about it.

Hope that helps.

Caio,

Singvogel. :cool:
 
Hi baron,

I had to think about this one, even had to get the handbook out.

I don't think you are 100% correct in what you say.

To go from D to N can only be done after pressing the release button.

To go from N to D you do not need to press the button.

When I stop at a traffic light I used to just sit with my foot on the brake, but I was told that doing that can cause extra unnecessary wear on the friction bands in the auto-box.

What I do now is when I stop, I press the release and move into N.

You then have a choice of simply keeping your foot on the pedal, or setting the h/brake, (which I only do when it's an obviously long delay e.g. at level crossings)

To set off again you just need to knock the lever back into D - no need to press the release button.

I do this so subconsciously & unthinkingly after 95K miles of using this Jatco box that I had to really think about it.

Hope that helps.

Caio,

Singvogel. :cool:


Hi
As Singvogel says
I have been driving automatics for some years and have always put it in neutral if you have to wait at traffic lights for any length of time.
 
i have been driving autos for years and a auto box mechanic always told me to leave it is drive as more damage happens when you keep chaging from n to d i could not see this myself and this was 35 years ago but I must add if by chance I was at a railway crossing I would nock it into n
 
I'm with teddy on this one, not sure where I read it, but it causes more wear on the solenoids changing from drive to neutral and back again.

When holding it on the brake, there is like a fluid bypass (i believe).
 
I've been doing the same as Sinvogel and Roshe25. When reaching a full stop at the lights, push button and put into N.

I'd like to hear more about the other view.
 
Also agree with teddy, been driving autos (HGV's, PSV's and cars) for the last 49 years and always left in drive. Only problem I ever had was in 1967 on a Zephyr 6 that I used as a taxi when the auto clutch failed, but no problems since.
 
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Hi baron,

I had to think about this one, even had to get the handbook out.

I don't think you are 100% correct in what you say.

To go from D to N can only be done after pressing the release button.

To go from N to D you do not need to press the button.

When I stop at a traffic light I used to just sit with my foot on the brake, but I was told that doing that can cause extra unnecessary wear on the friction bands in the auto-box.

What I do now is when I stop, I press the release and move into N.

You then have a choice of simply keeping your foot on the pedal, or setting the h/brake, (which I only do when it's an obviously long delay e.g. at level crossings)

To set off again you just need to knock the lever back into D - no need to press the release button.

I do this so subconsciously & unthinkingly after 95K miles of using this Jatco box that I had to really think about it.

Hope that helps.

Caio,

Singvogel. :cool:[Thanks for the info i knew you would know the answer for me the book is not that clear by my book it reads the opposite way which i could not understand as the lever wood not move thanks again]
 
Thing is when your stationary in drive, the auto is still loaded. Hence extra stress is being put on the transmission. torque coverter I guess. You'll see this was the engine revs drop when going from neutral to drive.

Clever cars can put the auto into neutral when they detect your stationary for some time, then select gear again when it thinks you want to move. The Disco 4 can do this if I remember correctly.

When test driving my broken auto with the main dealer I asked about this. He said put it in neutral if your waiting. He'd been on a jatco course on diagnostics. Also when test driving a Disco 4 at LR experience I asked the same question. Was told if more than 10 seconds stationary, then put into neutral. Natuarlly each gear selection/change operates stuff so in theory reduces life.
 
blimey zephyr 6 I used to drive one of those for my mate if I remember right they where just 3 speed am I correct just a little story coming back home one night from chesterfield to stoke we came to a stop sign in Longnor derbyshire and we stoped briefly and nothing coming 1.00am ( my mate was driving this time) so we carried on got a few miles up the road and blue lights he stoped us and said we had not stopped it went to court and the blue light man said we did not stop and would not have had time to change gear anyway at that point my mates solicitor said what do you mean not time to change gear he said it is a auto but the judge did believe the copper and we lost but I can tel you now we did never mind . any way all this adds up to we all drive different
 
blimey zephyr 6 I used to drive one of those for my mate if I remember right they where just 3 speed am I correct just a little story coming back home one night from chesterfield to stoke we came to a stop sign in Longnor derbyshire and we stoped briefly and nothing coming 1.00am ( my mate was driving this time) so we carried on got a few miles up the road and blue lights he stoped us and said we had not stopped it went to court and the blue light man said we did not stop and would not have had time to change gear anyway at that point my mates solicitor said what do you mean not time to change gear he said it is a auto but the judge did believe the copper and we lost but I can tel you now we did never mind . any way all this adds up to we all drive different
Yes 3 speed auto with column change and a BIG front bench seat;)
 
People who are stationary for any length of time, say more than 10 seconds with their footbrake on, especially at night are both inconsiderate and lazy. The bright hi intensity red light is very annoying and causes dazzle to the driver behind. It is also dangerous, what if you involuntarily let the pedal go, if you have a stroke or drop dead at the wheel, in drive with your footbrake on?
 
If someone keeping there foot on the brake for more than ten seconds ****'s you off, you really need to get out more, as for high intensity red brake lights, I wish.
 
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