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Anyone running HVO in their Defender/Discovery/Range Rover?

Discussion in 'General Land Rover Forum' started by v8250, Jan 13, 2022.

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  1. v8250

    v8250 Well-Known Member

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    As per title, anyone running HVO in their Land Rover jalopy? Have been reading up on HVO and as a synthesised bio fuel fuel it seems a logical improvement over high polluting diesel.
     
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    Wash you mouth out, diesels dont pollute much!
     
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    HVO. Heated veg oil?
     
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    v8250 Well-Known Member

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    Nearly...hydrogenated vegetable oil. It's uses hydrogen as a catalyst. Has been around for a good while overseas/in industrial [commercial] applications. UK commercial fuel market finally seems to be waking up to HVO viability. Though as usual the UK at least a decade behind some other countries :rolleyes:

    I'm really interested in running this clean alternative in the Landy. Have phoned around a pile of HVO advertising supply Co's this afternoon [Watson Fuels, Ford Fuels, Certas Energy, Nationwide Fuels, SpeedyFuels et al]. Most next to useless in being able to provide clear succinct info', i.e. minimum delivery quantity and price. Only semi-useful was Nationwide who confirmed minimum delivery of 500ltrs HVO [I don't mind having a mini-IBC hidden in the driveway] @ £1.65/ltr incl' delivery. Fellow on the phone then states it's a minimum 1000ltr delivery for domestic customers...I give up.

    I'll keep persevering as I think HVO is a very high quality drop-in/direct replacement for white diesel.
     
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    Knappster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At £1.65 per litre, it’s quite a bit more than normal expensive diesel. The previous owner of my Landy used to run biodiesel in it, which is a possibility.
     
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    lynall Well-Known Member

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    Didnt the jolly Germans make/use syn fuel in Poland as they had no fuel resources of their own?
     
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    v8250 Well-Known Member

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    @lynall , yes + the Germs were lightyears ahead in synthetic fuel R&D from as far back as WWII. Is it any wonder Rudolf Diesel was...German? Diesel, invented in 1892, 130 years later and we're still using this big polluter :(
     
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    goonarmy Beer tester LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Big plant operators are starting to move over to this ahead of the red going. My firm have tried it and moaned about the cost cos they are small fry. But it seems to work although supply is quite limited, everything comes from the Scandinavians currently.
     
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    "Have been reading up on HVO and as a synthesised bio fuel fuel it seems a logical improvement over high polluting diesel." I think you have been listening to too much green party propaganda. Yes diesel does polute but in a different way to petrol. Diesel emits less Co2 than petrol but its the NOx which all the fuss is about now, this effects us and our health more than the environment and is more of an issue in cities and built up areas than in rural areas. I dont particularly care what powers my Landy as long as I can continue to drive it but I would also like to do as much as I can to protect the environment. A lot of the propaganda at the moment is only scaremongering and not helpful if there was as much effort put into effecting solutions to the environmental issues rather than introducing tax's and rushing into electrification which is not sustainable either things would be lot better.
     
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    Used engine oil? o_O cleaned and mixed with diesel?
     
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    Not sure why anyone would bother running it unless you have a plentiful supply which is either cheap or buck shee? :)
     
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    The 2.5 diesel engine in the p38 will happily run on 100% svo in the summer and almost the same in the winter if you mix a small amount of unleaded to winterise it. Clean and cheap
     
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    I own my own garage o_O
    I did look into it in a shallow manner and 1400€ oil spinner is a start, then heating and blending tanks and gear.. Big outlay.. Hmmmm
     
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    @Mark Piercy

    I own my own garage o_O >>congratulations...<<
    I did look into it in a shallow manner and 1400€ oil spinner is a start, then heating and blending tanks and gear.. Big outlay.. Hmmmm

    >>I think it's too early for some garages to start selling HVO, not enough demand quite yet. But could you not contact one of the primary suppliers, do a low cost lease/package deal of the equipment from them and get the HVO supplier to direct commercial sales to you as a preferred HVO station. Both Co's would financially gain...<<
     
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    Should have said run my own garage but thanks for the appreciation, its not easy.. :p
     
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    @Mukiwa has a little experience in this field.. ;)
     
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    The standard bosch ve injection pump and injectors were fitted to almost every type of diesel car of that age. My reseal guide was based on this pump fitted in our old nissan terrano which is still going strong on 198k miles.
     
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    Is it anything like tvo? My 2A is supposed to run on that stuff
     
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    Tvo is a heating oil/petrol mix. Engine needs to run a bit hotter to get the fuel to vaporise properly. I’ve got a tvo Fergie and it’s got a heat shield on the exhaust manifold to heat it up quicker.
     
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