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Freelander 1 Anyone on here?

Discussion in 'Land Rover Freelander' started by tango90, Jun 27, 2022.

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  1. tango90

    tango90 Member

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    I was at the Billing off Road Show and saw this and was wondering if it might be anyone on here?
    I would love to get some info on how it was done. I know it is on a RR/Disco chassis but how was it done without removing the bulkhead?

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    GrumpyGel Well-Known Member

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    Don't think anyone would own up to it :D

    Google D-Lander
     
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    saxavordian Well-Known Member

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    You think for a Gaylander that high must only suitable for Dogging site rescue.:confused:
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    Well my George wouldn't buy it and neither Bobby either.
     
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    Itt's nothing like a D-Lander. A D-Lander is/was a fibreglass silhouette draped over a roll cage welded to a 100" chassis which made it somewhat like a tomcat/wildcat, typically they were built with aluminium floors and aluminium / fibreglass inner arches. However that is a complete freelander monocoque welded onto a disco/rrc ladder chassis and will be heavy AF. For all it's about 8ft high, it's got less ground clearance than a stock defender, and will have a similar roll centre to that of a double decker bus.

    It's been made by sitting the freelander body atop the 100" chassis putting body mounts onto the chassis onto the FL floorpan. If you popped the bonet, standing on a step ladder, you'd see about 12" of clearance between the rocker cover and the bonnet line. If you were seriously contemplating building such a frankenlander, you'd be best to retain the disco/rrc floorpan, and join the FL body at the sills. In the following diagram Green is hippo, blue is disco, so there's blue disco chassis rails, on the left the freelander body has been perched atop the disco chassis as per the picture in the opening post, in the right the freelander body has been draped down low over the disco running gear, maybe even using disco sills / bodymounts shown in blue.

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    300bhp/ton Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how this one is made. But shouldn’t be that difficult. Just heavy having 2 x chassis. And technically probably not road legal as it is one vehicle made out of two vehicles, ie a ringer.
     
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    Which is why the D3/4 is so heavy, an enormously strong monocoque body, on a beefy ladder chassis!!
     
  7. tango90

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    I dont see why. It is just a re-body really.
    My main interest is how the bulkhead appeared to be kept intact. The gear selector (auto) was very far forward, any of the previous attempts I had seen the engine was into the cab and the centre part of the dash had to be removed.
     
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    Difficult to tell any specifics, as you can't see anything with the only picture.

    Radically altered vehicle regs are quite clear. The above vehicle should have 2 chassis ID's as it has a monocoque chassis from a registered vehicle, bolted to another registered vehicle, i.e. a ringer....
     
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    Not exactly a "ringer" - its patently not trying to hide anything.

    If the DVLC bureaucracy don't have a category for it to exactly fall into, then the nearest one would have to do.
     
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    Being blatant or trying to hide it would make any difference. It simply cannot legally exist as two vehicles. The same would be true is you took a used 90 chassis and put it under another. If you 'declare' this the answer will be you need to IVA it. This is no different, if you want a fuller answer. I'd suggest contacting the DVLA//VOSA et al.

    At best the above should be on a Q plate. But as it stands would not be legally roadworthy....

    It's very clear as saying 'new' or 'original'
    https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles

    But a single vehicle cannot have two identifies.
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    Or even if I'd scrolled a bit further down the page...

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    Apparently it's still a blue RangeRover

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    Think its registered as a Discovery.

    Colour is wrong anyway, its not "Blue", its "Hippo Blue". ;)
     
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    I suppose you are right - but it is not trying to hide anything.

    So long as he hasn't insured it as a Discovery with no modifications :eek:
     
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    It's registered as a discovery, but isn't the hippo shorter? That would mean a cut down chassis.
    I wonder what vin number shows in the windscreen? A hippo or disco vin?
     
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    The lengths some disco and rr owners go to to improve their vehicle always surprises me. Would have been easier and far betterer to change to a whole freelander instead.
     
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    Negatory sir! The hippo is a 102" wheelbase vs the D1 / RRC's 100" wheelbase.
     
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