anybody have a sequential LPG conversion

>
>well now. The timing is rather handy. but even granting that it's fully
>legit, they've still agreed to buy it. I'm prepared to be flexible about
>collection if their circumstances are currently difficult, but if they don't
>buy it they get a negative, I'm afraid. If my circumstances suddenly
>changed after I'd contracted to buy something, I'd not expect that this
>would be viable as a reason not to complete the deal.
>
>Nor was there any secrecy about where the motor is located.

Such is life on ebay. If someone changes their mind about a deal,
contract law notwithstanding, a bit of negative feedback probably
won't sway them

I'm a bit miffed to find that I was bidding against the seller
(probably) for the Sprite. A bit of negative feeback won't sway me
from walking away (I'm going to sleep on it first).


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

so Tim Hobbs was, like...
>> well now. The timing is rather handy. but even granting that it's
>> fully legit, they've still agreed to buy it. I'm prepared to be
>> flexible about collection if their circumstances are currently
>> difficult, but if they don't buy it they get a negative, I'm afraid.
>> If my circumstances suddenly changed after I'd contracted to buy
>> something, I'd not expect that this would be viable as a reason not
>> to complete the deal.
>>
>> Nor was there any secrecy about where the motor is located.
>
> Such is life on ebay. If someone changes their mind about a deal,
> contract law notwithstanding, a bit of negative feedback probably
> won't sway them

Most won't worry too much about contract law, unless the amounts involved
are substantial. Are you really going to take someone to court for a grand
or so? And that assumes they are in your own jurisdiction and you are able
to do so without involving international lawyers.

The only neg feedback I have had came as a result of a guy in California who
had won a Nikon I was selling and pulled out (or rather disappeared from
view and didn't reply to any contact) when I told him what the shipping cost
would be from UK. I gave him a couple of weeks and then gave him neg
feedback (of the "warning - avoid" kind) and he responded with neg feedback
to me. Totally unjustified, but it's there for ever now. If I get
positives for evey transaction from now until the end of time, I will still
never have 100%. This irritates me, and it wasn't really worth it for the
temporary satisfaction of typing a negative and seeing it in his profile.

I'd be inclined to take this on the chin and relist. You won't pay final
fees if you do this - you will only have lost the listing fee and a bit of
time. Or go to your second bidder with an offer. You would have the
satisfaction of relisting with a cutting "relisted to to utter timewasting
w*nker" in the description, and your original winning bidder can't respond.

I reckon eBay works well, on the whole, but I take it for what it is -
dealing with unknowns, where anything can happen, and accept that
occasionally people don't behave as well as they should.


--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)

On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:07:09 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I'd be inclined to take this on the chin and relist. You won't pay final
>fees if you do this - you will only have lost the listing fee and a bit of
>time. Or go to your second bidder with an offer. You would have the
>satisfaction of relisting with a cutting "relisted to to utter timewasting
>w*nker" in the description, and your original winning bidder can't respond.

Well, I'll give 'em a bit of leeway - likesay, after further email I'm
reasonably convinced it is genuine. I said 10 days to complete the deal on
the listing anyway, and provided it's paid for, I'm willing to be more
flexible about collection.

I's be inclined to put a negative (or maybe neutral) but with comments
suitable to the case rather than slagging off, in any case.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".

so Austin Shackles was, like...
>
> I's be inclined to put a negative (or maybe neutral) but with comments
> suitable to the case rather than slagging off, in any case.

The negative I gave explained why (at least, as well as the 80-character
limit allows), but that didn't stop the guy retaliating. I assume that's
what it was, as he had no cause for complaint otherwise. I specifically
said in the description for non-UK buyers to contact me for shipping costs,
but he sniped a winning bid in at the last minute and I never heard from him
again. Point is, however reasonable and justified, a negative is a negative
and a lot of people will be very upset at getting one. If they decide to
mess you about with a tit-for-tat, there isn't a lot you can do. Ask
yourself, is it worth it? I'd be inclined to leave a neutral, especially if
you think there is some justification to their lack of ability to follow
through. If they are reasonable people, they'll be OK with that.

'Tis a tricky one.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)

so Richard Brookman was, like...
> so Austin Shackles was, like...
>>
>> I's be inclined to put a negative (or maybe neutral) but with
>> comments suitable to the case rather than slagging off, in any case.
>
> The negative I gave explained why (at least, as well as the
> 80-character limit allows), but that didn't stop the guy retaliating.
> I assume that's what it was, as he had no cause for complaint
> otherwise. I

Don't forget the karma thing as well - what goes around comes around.

I relisted the camera and sold to a really nice guy, Army Major with a
stunning wife who met me near my work and paid cash. Charming, both of
them. I got about £20 less on the second listing, but it was worth it to
meet such a nice couple - made the transaction a pleasure. He was late for
the meeting, as he had been driving a Wolf on Salisbury Plain but it had
broken down and he had to make the journey in his own 90. There was plenty
to talk about.

Worked out well in the end.
--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:09:21 +0100, Richard Brookman wrote:

> The negative I gave explained why (at least, as well as the
> 80-character limit allows), but that didn't stop the guy
> retaliating.

Thats how I have my one neg but anyone who looks at the feedbacks and
followups left directly relating to this can only see that he is the
plonker. A yank (odd that...) won a camera I had for sale, nicely and
carefully described with several pictures. After he won he didn't want
it as he thought it was a digital camera, eh? The sale included a
couple of rolls of film and the word "film" was mentioned 5 times in
the description...

> Point is, however reasonable and justified, a negative is a negative
> and a lot of people will be very upset at getting one.

I think too many people put to much credance onto that 100% record. If
someone sells a reasonable amount and has a 100% +ve of more than a
couple of hundred FBs it makes me suspicious. There are so many idiots
on eBay how come he hasn't come across at least one? May be they have
but haven't the guts to say when they have been had, equating to not
being 100% honest. They'd rather be "economical with the truth" rather
than get a neg which, IMHO, doesn't really matter.

> I'd be inclined to leave a neutral, especially if you think there is
> some justification to their lack of ability to follow through.

Or not leave FB at all, though that may depend on if you are the buyer
or the seller. As a buyer I have choosen not to leave FB for a sale
that didn't proceed because the "as new" item was anything but when I
went to collect. eBay is heavly biased to the seller in these
situations, I'd have been the one with the black mark not the seller
even though he had blantently misdescribed the item both in the
auction and in email. I've learn't though if that happens again I'll
be taking date/time stamped photos...

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

so Dave Liquorice was, like...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:09:21 +0100, Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> The negative I gave explained why (at least, as well as the
>> 80-character limit allows), but that didn't stop the guy
>> retaliating.
>
> Thats how I have my one neg but anyone who looks at the feedbacks and
> followups left directly relating to this can only see that he is the
> plonker.

That's true. Some of my other FBs are superb, almost embarrassing, so
anyone reading seriously should get the wider picture. Plus I took up
eBay's offer of replies and reply responses to the neg FB, so the whole
story is there if anyone cares to read it. Still niggles a bit though.

> A yank (odd that...)

Mine was a Californian. Different, I'm told.

> won a camera I had for sale, nicely and
> carefully described with several pictures. After he won he didn't want
> it as he thought it was a digital camera, eh? The sale included a
> couple of rolls of film and the word "film" was mentioned 5 times in
> the description...

Ah, but you didn't phone him personally and ask him if he was sure he wanted
a film camera, as yours was not a digital like so many people want these
days. You were lazy, what did you expect?



--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)

In message <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:17:45 +0100, "StaffBull"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've been told to go for a 735 beemer instead by a mechanic - he said the
>>Jag would just rust before my eyes
>>
>> My sensible head says he's right and go for the beemer - but i love the
>>look of the post 95 XJ !!!!!!
>>
>>Decisions decisions!!!
>>
>>
>My 95 XJR was pretty reliable and had no rust. Parts were horribly
>expensive (£1100 for an exhaust system for example).
>
>Only fault was when the gearbox decided it was broken (it wasn't) and
>stuck itself in third gear. Amusingly, performance was virtually
>unaffected!
>
>V8 version would have been even better - more powerful and 5 speed
>instead of 4.
>
>7 Series was utterly soulless and uninteresting by comparison.
>
>
>
>
Couldn't agree more - I had a V8 for a short while, beautiful car.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:37:52 +0100, MVP
<mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:33:17 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:07:09 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>I'd be inclined to take this on the chin and relist. You won't pay final
>>>fees if you do this - you will only have lost the listing fee and a bit of
>>>time. Or go to your second bidder with an offer. You would have the
>>>satisfaction of relisting with a cutting "relisted to to utter timewasting
>>>w*nker" in the description, and your original winning bidder can't respond.
>>
>>Well, I'll give 'em a bit of leeway - likesay, after further email I'm
>>reasonably convinced it is genuine. I said 10 days to complete the deal on
>>the listing anyway, and provided it's paid for, I'm willing to be more
>>flexible about collection.
>>
>>I's be inclined to put a negative (or maybe neutral) but with comments
>>suitable to the case rather than slagging off, in any case.
>
>Same guy is currently bidding on another disco. go figure.

hmmmm. If that's the case, I'm going to be considerably less sympathetic.

however. The claimed change of circumstances is sudden and major. I'll
look into it.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".

On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:25:04 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>That's true. Some of my other FBs are superb, almost embarrassing, so
>anyone reading seriously should get the wider picture. Plus I took up
>eBay's offer of replies and reply responses to the neg FB, so the whole
>story is there if anyone cares to read it. Still niggles a bit though.

I generally look at the comments, at least some.

If someone has 227 positives all saying "yeah, great ebayer, no problems"
and one negative (or even 2), then, well, **** happens. It's generally
something stupid, like bidding on a UK item from the states. Mind, on my
items as most others, the location is quite clear. This is why I was a bit
wary of the buyer for my disco, who is after all in Argyllshire.


Another point I've just thought - not only is the buyer contracted to buy
the item, but the seller is contracted to sell it. So now, I have a buyer
who will, I hope, pay up, but in the mean time, I can't offer it to anyone
else. If one of you lot (for example) suddenly fancied buying it, I'd not
legitimately be able to sell it as I've put on the auction "completion in 10
days", and until that time, if the original buyer comes up with the pennies,
I'm obliged to sell it and moreover, if I've already sold it elsewhere, *I*
would be liable.

nemmind, we shall see what the next few days bring.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".

On or around Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:27:40 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:37:52 +0100, MVP
><mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:33:17 +0100, Austin Shackles
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On or around Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:07:09 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
>>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>>I'd be inclined to take this on the chin and relist. You won't pay final
>>>>fees if you do this - you will only have lost the listing fee and a bit of
>>>>time. Or go to your second bidder with an offer. You would have the
>>>>satisfaction of relisting with a cutting "relisted to to utter timewasting
>>>>w*nker" in the description, and your original winning bidder can't respond.
>>>
>>>Well, I'll give 'em a bit of leeway - likesay, after further email I'm
>>>reasonably convinced it is genuine. I said 10 days to complete the deal on
>>>the listing anyway, and provided it's paid for, I'm willing to be more
>>>flexible about collection.
>>>
>>>I's be inclined to put a negative (or maybe neutral) but with comments
>>>suitable to the case rather than slagging off, in any case.
>>
>>Same guy is currently bidding on another disco. go figure.
>
>hmmmm. If that's the case, I'm going to be considerably less sympathetic.
>
>however. The claimed change of circumstances is sudden and major. I'll
>look into it.

and have done so: the guy bidding elsewhere is not the winner of mine.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".