anybody have a sequential LPG conversion

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are the solenoids noisy?

what are the benefits over a single point system?

Cheers


 
On or around Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:52:06 +0100, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>are the solenoids noisy?
>
>what are the benefits over a single point system?


better matching to modern engine management, potentially more accurate fuel
control, no risk of backfires blowing up modern plastic manifold/plenum on
engines thus equipped.

apart from that, not much, and they cost more.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
I have prins vsi and there's no difference on gas over petrol the injectors
are silent!
"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> are the solenoids noisy?
>
> what are the benefits over a single point system?
>
> Cheers
>



 

"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> are the solenoids noisy?
>
> what are the benefits over a single point system?
>
> Cheers
>

I have an OMVL Dream. It runs as well on Gas as Petrol.
Even when using sport mode on auto.
I converted it from a single point system which I wasn't very
happy with. I couldn't get it to work very well.

You can just about hear the injectors clicking when your head is burried
under bonnet.You can't hear a thing when bonnet is shut.

Hope this helps

Gerry


 
MVP wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:17:29 +0100, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Gents, sequential it is then ( going on a Jag 3.2 XJ)

>
> have ye had a quote for fitting such or are you doint it yourself...
> or shoudl I be asking this elsewhere :eek:(
>
>


Why do I suspect the answer is "Lots"

I've been pricing around for an LPG conversion for my Lexus - V8 with a
plastic plenum - and I'm getting quotes in the £2k range vs less than 1k
for the Range Rover when asked.

Sequential LPG costs £££

P.
--
1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
 
On or around Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:58:54 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>MVP wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:17:29 +0100, "StaffBull"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Gents, sequential it is then ( going on a Jag 3.2 XJ)

>>
>> have ye had a quote for fitting such or are you doint it yourself...
>> or shoudl I be asking this elsewhere :eek:(
>>
>>

>
>Why do I suspect the answer is "Lots"
>
>I've been pricing around for an LPG conversion for my Lexus - V8 with a
>plastic plenum - and I'm getting quotes in the £2k range vs less than 1k
>for the Range Rover when asked.
>
>Sequential LPG costs £££


This is why I reckon it's only worth fitting if you have an engine that
really needs it. The gains in efficiency compared to closed loop single
point *IF* the latter is set up properly are slight, and it'll take a long
time to pay for it, if ever.

Now, if you could set up liquid-phase gas injection, it'd be more likely to
give better results - would also not need a vapouriser. I keep wondering
about trying this in a petrol injection system - the old Bosch K-jet runs at
about 5 bar, ISTR, which is not that far off LPG liquid pressure. It'd need
recalibrating, is the main drawback, which would probably preclude runnign
on petrol. However, that doesn't mean you can't have a second injection
system which is what you get anyway with SGI.

Dunno if anyone's doing anything in this respect.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
Hi Paul, £1500 for the sequential in the Jag, 95 lt torroidal in the boot


"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MVP wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:17:29 +0100, "StaffBull"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Gents, sequential it is then ( going on a Jag 3.2 XJ)

>>
>> have ye had a quote for fitting such or are you doint it yourself...
>> or shoudl I be asking this elsewhere :eek:(
>>
>>

>
> Why do I suspect the answer is "Lots"
>
> I've been pricing around for an LPG conversion for my Lexus - V8 with a
> plastic plenum - and I'm getting quotes in the £2k range vs less than 1k
> for the Range Rover when asked.
>
> Sequential LPG costs £££
>
> P.
> --
> 1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
> 1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
> 2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
> 1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel



 
StaffBull wrote:

> Hi Paul, £1500 for the sequential in the Jag, 95 lt torroidal in the boot
>
>


2 fewer cylinders tho :mad:)

For some reason I suddenly want to replace the Lexus with an XJ-S again -
anybody want to swap?

P.

--
1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel
 
I've been told to go for a 735 beemer instead by a mechanic - he said the
Jag would just rust before my eyes

My sensible head says he's right and go for the beemer - but i love the
look of the post 95 XJ !!!!!!

Decisions decisions!!!



"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> StaffBull wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul, 1500 for the sequential in the Jag, 95 lt torroidal in the boot
>>
>>

>
> 2 fewer cylinders tho :mad:)
>
> For some reason I suddenly want to replace the Lexus with an XJ-S again -
> anybody want to swap?
>
> P.
>
> --
> 1992 200 TDI Disco - heavily modified
> 1982 V8 Range Rover - heavily corroded
> 2000 Rover 75 - heavily driven
> 1993 Lexus LS400 - just plain heavy on fuel



 
True, if I bought the beemer I'd only keep if for a couple of months I
don't really want one - it just makes for a better buy than the jag
reliability wise. I'm sticking with the 3.2 though - should give me 40 MPG +
on Lpg !!! :)



"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:17:45 +0100, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've been told to go for a 735 beemer instead by a mechanic - he said the
>>Jag would just rust before my eyes
>>
>> My sensible head says he's right and go for the beemer - but i love the
>>look of the post 95 XJ !!!!!!
>>
>>Decisions decisions!!!

>
> you'd not catch me in a fecking beemer mate.
> you know it makes sense.
> now, about that V12....
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.
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On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:17:45 +0100, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been told to go for a 735 beemer instead by a mechanic - he said the
>Jag would just rust before my eyes
>
> My sensible head says he's right and go for the beemer - but i love the
>look of the post 95 XJ !!!!!!
>
>Decisions decisions!!!
>
>

My 95 XJR was pretty reliable and had no rust. Parts were horribly
expensive (£1100 for an exhaust system for example).

Only fault was when the gearbox decided it was broken (it wasn't) and
stuck itself in third gear. Amusingly, performance was virtually
unaffected!

V8 version would have been even better - more powerful and 5 speed
instead of 4.

7 Series was utterly soulless and uninteresting by comparison.




--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 

"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:17:45 +0100, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've been told to go for a 735 beemer instead by a mechanic - he said the
>>Jag would just rust before my eyes
>>
>> My sensible head says he's right and go for the beemer - but i love the
>>look of the post 95 XJ !!!!!!
>>
>>Decisions decisions!!!
>>
>>

> My 95 XJR was pretty reliable and had no rust. Parts were horribly
> expensive (£1100 for an exhaust system for example).
>
> Only fault was when the gearbox decided it was broken (it wasn't) and
> stuck itself in third gear. Amusingly, performance was virtually
> unaffected!
>
> V8 version would have been even better - more powerful and 5 speed
> instead of 4.
>
> 7 Series was utterly soulless and uninteresting by comparison.


I've got a 3 series (2001 E46) with the 3 litre diesel and steptronic
5-speed autobox, it is definitely NOT soul-less and uninteresting!! 0-60 in
8 seconds, 38mpg local running, corners like it's on rails! Must admit,
never driven a 7 series, bit too barge-like for my tastes.
Badger.
P.S. the 330dSE is for sale, bought a disco2!


 
>
>I've got a 3 series (2001 E46) with the 3 litre diesel and steptronic
>5-speed autobox, it is definitely NOT soul-less and uninteresting!! 0-60 in
>8 seconds, 38mpg local running, corners like it's on rails! Must admit,
>never driven a 7 series, bit too barge-like for my tastes.
>Badger.
>P.S. the 330dSE is for sale, bought a disco2!
>


Chalk and cheese IMHO. I've never thought the BMW feel of sportiness
and balance worked well in the 7 - it's neither agile like a BMW nor
imperious like a Jag / Merc. The 3's and 5's I've driven have been
superb, although I've not tried any of Bangle's creations. If the
dealers weren't such cretins I'd have owned one of each by now, but as
I refuse to believe owning any car is 'an honour' (as Merc and BMW
seem to think) I cannot seem to have a sensible discussion with them.

New 3 remains very tempting - the 2 litre diesel is a match for Audi's
2.5. I'll probably hang on and see what they come up with as a larger
diesel for it, especially in Touring guise. There's allegedly a
petrol 335 with turbo coming out which is almost on par with the last
M3 for power.

XJR is available for pocket money (well, not quite) - V8 worth the
extra but the 6 is still very swift. Worth having if only to upset
Impreza drivers with. Awesome pace and really easy to drive. No room
inside, horrendous costs for dealer service and drinks like a rabid
dog...


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Jag 3.2 Sport just bought!!! eBay!! Picking it up on Wednesday, 96 on a P
( X300 type) only got 58K on it :)

The V8 Disco has gone today :-( so I am now officially a lurker!!!!
No LR on the drive ------ for now


"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> are the solenoids noisy?
>
> what are the benefits over a single point system?
>
> Cheers
>



 
Does the jag 3.2 run a timing belt or chain ?



"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jag 3.2 Sport just bought!!! eBay!! Picking it up on Wednesday, 96 on a P
> ( X300 type) only got 58K on it :)
>
> The V8 Disco has gone today :-( so I am now officially a lurker!!!!
> No LR on the drive ------ for now
>
>
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> are the solenoids noisy?
>>
>> what are the benefits over a single point system?
>>
>> Cheers
>>

>
>



 
On or around Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:54:24 +0100, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

> Jag 3.2 Sport just bought!!! eBay!! Picking it up on Wednesday, 96 on a P
>( X300 type) only got 58K on it :)
>
> The V8 Disco has gone today :-( so I am now officially a lurker!!!!
> No LR on the drive ------ for now


Mine will be soon as well. Supposedly sold, just have to arrange a suitable
time for its collection.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On or around Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:22:07 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On or around Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:54:24 +0100, "StaffBull"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Jag 3.2 Sport just bought!!! eBay!! Picking it up on Wednesday, 96 on a P
>>( X300 type) only got 58K on it :)
>>
>> The V8 Disco has gone today :-( so I am now officially a lurker!!!!
>> No LR on the drive ------ for now

>
>Mine will be soon as well. Supposedly sold, just have to arrange a suitable
>time for its collection.


hmmm. email today about "have just realised how far it is, will have to
arrange something re: collection" followed by another (about 3 hours later)
from the woman's husband saying she'd just had an epileptic fit (having not
done so for 2 years) and won't now be wanting to buy, and please don't give
negative feedback.


well now. The timing is rather handy. but even granting that it's fully
legit, they've still agreed to buy it. I'm prepared to be flexible about
collection if their circumstances are currently difficult, but if they don't
buy it they get a negative, I'm afraid. If my circumstances suddenly
changed after I'd contracted to buy something, I'd not expect that this
would be viable as a reason not to complete the deal.

Nor was there any secrecy about where the motor is located.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On or around Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:46:06 +0100, MVP
<mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>Pretty stupid to bid on anything that needs collecting without being
>very aware of where it is and being sure you can collect it within a
>reasonable time.
>ebay - brain optional.


would be, indeed, although it does appear after a further email that it's
genuine.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
To make things more amicable - I'd ask for the listing plus final fee to be
paid, did you have anyone bid a lower amount? second chance offer ?


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:46:06 +0100, MVP
> <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>Pretty stupid to bid on anything that needs collecting without being
>>very aware of where it is and being sure you can collect it within a
>>reasonable time.
>>ebay - brain optional.

>
> would be, indeed, although it does appear after a further email that it's
> genuine.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> "Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
> Boswell's "Johnson".



 
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