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Addick47

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Hi All,
My apologies if this has been asked before.
Got a P38 2001 with 62k doing about 100 miles a week. The air bags are starting to look a little sorry for themselves but have no leaks and suspension is doing what it should do. What sort of mileage should these generally be replaced at or is it a case of ''if it ain't broke don't fix it'':confused:
 
I'm jealous - a 2001 P38 with 62k on it... mines 2000 with 115k on it!

I would say if they are looking cracked up, to replace them as they are a really easy job and not hugely expensive. I got new rears last year, unfortunately after they had perished pretty bad and leaking (the back kept sitting on the bump stops when parked) which meant the compressor was running overtime and eventually gave up and needed replaced...

62k seems early, but then it is 8 year old rubber...

I got the arnott gen 2's from p38spares - rears only, when i stop spending other peoples money I'll eventually take my own advice and do the fronts
 
It seems to be an age thing rather than mileage - the rubber just perishes.

I would replace them/get them replaced. It's not massively expensive and worth it for peace of mind if nothing else, particularly if everything else is working fine.

Guy
 
:5biagree::5biagree:.i waited too long to change my airbags,it went tits up and went onto the bump stops,then had to get a rovacom to clear the hard fault to get the suspension to work again.:doh:;);)
 
I would tend to agree with most of the replies.

If you intend to keep the car for a while, then get them replaced.
 
I get about 3 years out of the dunlop bellows from Airbag Man in Australia, (i think it has to do with the Tropics where I live though) have replaced all, twice. It is an easy job, the very first one took me about an hour, but only takes about 20 mins total each one now, no special tools required either, just get hold of some rubber grease prior to commencing the job, it'll make things a lot easier.
 
Thanks for the replies Chaps,
Have obtained a new set of Dunlops ready to be fitted.
Is there anything that you can coat the rubber with proir to fitting to help prolong the life of them without compromising safety or performance. I was thinking along the lines of maybe something waterproof based.
Cheers
 
Addick47 said:
Thanks for the replies Chaps,
Have obtained a new set of Dunlops ready to be fitted.
Is there anything that you can coat the rubber with proir to fitting to help prolong the life of them without compromising safety or performance. I was thinking along the lines of maybe something waterproof based.
Cheers
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Dont coat em with anything, new ones should outlast the mota
 
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Dunlop originals lasted me 10 years and although cracked still held the pressure etc.
I replaced them with Dunlop (Original Spec.) for £62.50 apiece from Island 4x4. The cost in real terms is less than a set of tyres over 10 years motoring..say 100,000 miles.
My feelings are..why move away from the originals?? O.k., you can buy Arnotts Gen II/III etc with a lifetime guarantee.. in reality, are you going to do over 20 years,ut why motoring with your P38..I doubt it.... Like looking for a set of tyres that are everlasting.
It's your choice, and your money
 
Add.......
I know that this might p**s some people off but I read so many posts on here from people who try to get their petrol V8's to have the same running costs as a Mini or Nissan Micra.
O.k., LPG is much cheaper and supposedly cleaner, but , just look at the number of posts which ask for help relating to LPG conversions....especially overheating,misfires, airlocks in the cooling system, rough idling etc. etc., the list goes on and on.
I can fully appreciate the love (Or Hate) of the P38 and Classic .. more so the P38 because of the transition to "Hi tech" ..as Gavbriggs would say "Electrickery".
I bought my P38, 4.6 HSE with the knowledge that it would do at best 22-24 mpg on petrol, more than likely 17 around the houses..if I was lucky.
My car is, as it came out of the factory, still running on petrol and giving the environmentalists sleepless nights..it's my choice. I have no intention of trying to convert the the car to be an enviromentally friendly vehicle and as a result, I pay the price for my "Sins" every time I fill up at the pumps. Why, did LR not offer the option of dual fuel.
Unfortunately, it's a fact of life, in my opinion, that the more enjoyable pleasures in life come at a cost..let's be brutal..either you can afford it or not.
I appreciate that economy is essential in this day and age..but in effect to try and run a V8, P38 on a Mini or Nissan Micra budget is simply not possible..just be realistic.
Maybe I'm a purist and enemy of the Green Party, but it's my choice.
I believe that the car should be as it was designed and have no intention whatsoever of trying to re-invent it or detract from the original design. Can you imagine Series II or III Land Rovers being converted to run on battery power???????
I accept that what I have posted will probably get a few backs up, but these are my thoughts and ideals........................"Bring it on!!!!!!!!!"
 
Irishrover said:
Add.......
I know that this might p**s some people off but I read so many posts on here from people who try to get their petrol V8's to have the same running costs as a Mini or Nissan Micra.
O.k., LPG is much cheaper and supposedly cleaner, but , just look at the number of posts which ask for help relating to LPG conversions....especially overheating,misfires, airlocks in the cooling system, rough idling etc. etc., the list goes on and on.
I can fully appreciate the love (Or Hate) of the P38 and Classic .. more so the P38 because of the transition to "Hi tech" ..as Gavbriggs would say "Electrickery".
I bought my P38, 4.6 HSE with the knowledge that it would do at best 22-24 mpg on petrol, more than likely 17 around the houses..if I was lucky.
My car is, as it came out of the factory, still running on petrol and giving the environmentalists sleepless nights..it's my choice. I have no intention of trying to convert the the car to be an enviromentally friendly vehicle and as a result, I pay the price for my "Sins" every time I fill up at the pumps. Why, did LR not offer the option of dual fuel.
Unfortunately, it's a fact of life, in my opinion, that the more enjoyable pleasures in life come at a cost..let's be brutal..either you can afford it or not.
I appreciate that economy is essential in this day and age..but in effect to try and run a V8, P38 on a Mini or Nissan Micra budget is simply not possible..just be realistic.
Maybe I'm a purist and enemy of the Green Party, but it's my choice.
I believe that the car should be as it was designed and have no intention whatsoever of trying to re-invent it or detract from the original design. Can you imagine Series II or III Land Rovers being converted to run on battery power???????
I accept that what I have posted will probably get a few backs up, but these are my thoughts and ideals........................"Bring it on!!!!!!!!!"
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:5biagree:
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But where did this come from:alien:?
 
Irishrover said:
Add.......
I know that this might p**s some people off but I read so many posts on here from people who try to get their petrol V8's to have the same running costs as a Mini or Nissan Micra.
O.k., LPG is much cheaper and supposedly cleaner, but , just look at the number of posts which ask for help relating to LPG conversions....especially overheating,misfires, airlocks in the cooling system, rough idling etc. etc., the list goes on and on.
I can fully appreciate the love (Or Hate) of the P38 and Classic .. more so the P38 because of the transition to "Hi tech" ..as Gavbriggs would say "Electrickery".
I bought my P38, 4.6 HSE with the knowledge that it would do at best 22-24 mpg on petrol, more than likely 17 around the houses..if I was lucky.
My car is, as it came out of the factory, still running on petrol and giving the environmentalists sleepless nights..it's my choice. I have no intention of trying to convert the the car to be an enviromentally friendly vehicle and as a result, I pay the price for my "Sins" every time I fill up at the pumps. Why, did LR not offer the option of dual fuel.
Unfortunately, it's a fact of life, in my opinion, that the more enjoyable pleasures in life come at a cost..let's be brutal..either you can afford it or not.
I appreciate that economy is essential in this day and age..but in effect to try and run a V8, P38 on a Mini or Nissan Micra budget is simply not possible..just be realistic.
Maybe I'm a purist and enemy of the Green Party, but it's my choice.
I believe that the car should be as it was designed and have no intention whatsoever of trying to re-invent it or detract from the original design. Can you imagine Series II or III Land Rovers being converted to run on battery power???????
I accept that what I have posted will probably get a few backs up, but these are my thoughts and ideals........................"Bring it on!!!!!!!!!"
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Well said
 
Irishrover said:
Add.......
I know that this might p**s some people off but I read so many posts on here from people who try to get their petrol V8's to have the same running costs as a Mini or Nissan Micra.
O.k., LPG is much cheaper and supposedly cleaner, but , just look at the number of posts which ask for help relating to LPG conversions....especially overheating,misfires, airlocks in the cooling system, rough idling etc. etc., the list goes on and on.
I can fully appreciate the love (Or Hate) of the P38 and Classic .. more so the P38 because of the transition to "Hi tech" ..as Gavbriggs would say "Electrickery".
I bought my P38, 4.6 HSE with the knowledge that it would do at best 22-24 mpg on petrol, more than likely 17 around the houses..if I was lucky.
My car is, as it came out of the factory, still running on petrol and giving the environmentalists sleepless nights..it's my choice. I have no intention of trying to convert the the car to be an enviromentally friendly vehicle and as a result, I pay the price for my "Sins" every time I fill up at the pumps. Why, did LR not offer the option of dual fuel.
Unfortunately, it's a fact of life, in my opinion, that the more enjoyable pleasures in life come at a cost..let's be brutal..either you can afford it or not.
I appreciate that economy is essential in this day and age..but in effect to try and run a V8, P38 on a Mini or Nissan Micra budget is simply not possible..just be realistic.
Maybe I'm a purist and enemy of the Green Party, but it's my choice.
I believe that the car should be as it was designed and have no intention whatsoever of trying to re-invent it or detract from the original design. Can you imagine Series II or III Land Rovers being converted to run on battery power???????
I accept that what I have posted will probably get a few backs up, but these are my thoughts and ideals........................"Bring it on!!!!!!!!!"
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Now there is a man who understands living with "The Land Rover Marque", I have no problem with improving the breed/spec (ie: a powerbox or chipping for a dozel or a petrol), but they ain't cheap toys to run. The way to save money is a proper maintenance regime and no half measure repairs....:)
 
got to agree with the above got to be petrol to **** of the tree huggers and i like it warm cant run a 4.6 motor on mini costs we all know what to expect when you buy one of these
cheers alan
 
How easy is it to fit the springs? My garage tells me you have to be careful in locating them, are they just pulling the wool over my head. Is it me or do people think you got a pockt full of wedge when driving a P38.:doh:
 
vinnylondon said:
How easy is it to fit the springs? My garage tells me you have to be careful in locating them, are they just pulling the wool over my head. Is it me or do people think you got a pockt full of wedge when driving a P38.:doh:
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tis a piece of **** to fit the air bags mate.it will only take you a couple of hours to do all four,that is if you have a couple of brews as well.;)
 
Yep can agree there it was the first job i done on mine and i was thinking that i must have missed something it was so easy!! once you get started on them its self explanetry, I found a set of extra long nose pliers handy.
 
Providing the air spring end caps are plastic. The earlier one's were die cast ally and the spring retaining clips corrode and weld themselves to the hole they fit in. The fronts on mine were easier to access and remove than the rears as the lugs on the end caps had semi welded themselves to the attachment points on the chassis/body. If they are the later plastic type there shouldn't be too much hassle other than removing the upper clips on the rears..........being a Gynacologist would be an advantage.
 
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