A Series Instrument cluster with an OIL temperature gauge?

Saw this pic feature in a thread on here from ER1C. Maybe ER1C himself can answer?

Two questions:

1) That cluster in the red square, it appears to have an oil temp, at two o'clock?




The Military gauge gets a cluster as shown below, Oil temp at 6 o'clock.




Young Er1C's differs. What am I looking at?

2) And how is there a recess to the panel marked green. None of this is stock series as I know it. Some modding has been going on. Or is it a late Series, etc again i ask, what am I looking at?

Not as ER1C's, mine is like so...





It's something I cobbled-in. A milly gauge into my civvy 109. Oil at 6 o'clock.

Looking into this, I think I've answered my own question. It's 24V and part PRC1777.

109SeriesIIA said:

Looking into this, I think I've answered my own question. It's 24V and part PRC1777.

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Can you not find just the oil temp part?
Then swap over
That price scared me

Now as these were made about the same time as an Austin maxi…. Have you looked at them clocks ?

Yes, very possible to buy just the gauge. I've already made mine from a gauge found in a a 60s Wolesley cluster. All much the same. But it gets weirder. No I don't know either.... we can buy a keyring/key fob of ER1C's dash for £35... the man's famous.

Mine is my own custom 12V jobby. As far as I'm aware, 12V won't exist in stock LR parts... ER1C must have a LWT and/or FFR 24V military. Correct?

And the green box recessing? I stand to be corrected, seems it's a Debender lower-dash.

109SeriesIIA said:

And the green box recessing? I stand to be corrected, seems it's a Debender lower-dash.

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Yep the dash in green is an early 90/110.
But them clocks don’t follow the dash top(by windscreen) you can see a recesse for proper clock binnacle to go into.

Yes, with digging, 'image-search' that pic is from http://www.nickslandrover.co.uk/
That thing's a Heinz 57.

http://www.nickslandrover.co.uk/page/86/

He neglects to say how he got a 24V gauge to run on his 12V wagon. My solution is likely more practical for most. Either way, mystery solved.

109SeriesIIA said:

He neglects to say how he got a 24V gauge to run on his 12V wagon

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There's a 12V version of the 3-gauge Smiths cluster, but these are even more rare than the 24V. As far as I know, all Series 3 military FFR were 24V, but GS were 12V.
My ex-mil GS Ser3 was 12V; it had the 3-gauge Smiths cluster but these gauges are notorious for corroding internally and just reading max the whole time. I could only find 24V replacements, so I used a small 12-to-24 boost converter - that worked fine, but I thnk the old capillary gauges are more reliable!

Thanks, I did wonder.
My solution is 12V. Mine with oil at 6 o'clock, it's only as a result of that NicksLandRover pic, that I now realise there's another milly variant of the three-gauge cluster over the version I used.,

As far as I can make out these all came from an era when the Smiths/Jaeger temp gauges were not great, as you say internal corrosion etc. I thought all 24V, you're lucky to have a 12V.

In my solution I've taken later type gauges, and cobbled them to 'appear' as the older format, then spliced them into an ex-24V cluster.

Smiths have several types of temp-gauges, working in different ways. Smiths BT TC & TE Types. My Smiths temperature gauge is a TC (a later gauge) which 'looks' Land rover , yet works with later more reliable senders, at 12V.

If your 12 to 24 step-up ever plays-up that'd be the way to go.

Seems like others have gone into battle with these:

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/sender-unit-fuel-gauge-issues.360126/

Heaps on eBay, I just went new, matched sender to new guaages. And junked anything 24V.