'99 Disco tailgate latch woes!

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Bananaramma

Guest

• Feb 2, 2005

• #1

My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.

It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
might share.TIA


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Bob Sinclair

Guest

• Feb 2, 2005

• #2

Try putting the door key in the lock barrel from the outside and turn fully
anticlockwise then (without letting the key turn back) lift the lever.

If it opens normally then I suggest that a small spring in the lock/lever
mechanism has either become displaced or snapped - just like mine.

If this doesn't happen, then I can't help I'm afraid.

Bob.

"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>
> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
> might share.TIA
>
>
> B

 

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StaffBull

Guest

• Feb 2, 2005

• #3

Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a knife or
small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where you have taken the
logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy - push it in ( or pull it
out) depending where its got stuck and then open the door. you need to lube
the mechanism from the same hole for it not to happen again, but don't use
WD40 as it will dry out and seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube Teflon
lube ( courtesy of work) and its been fine since.

PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can pop it
back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70 for the
privilege!!


Cheers, Steve


"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>
> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
> might share.TIA
>
>
> B

 

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GbH

Guest

• Feb 2, 2005

• #4

In news:[email protected],
StaffBull <[email protected]> blithered:
> Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a
> knife or small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where
> you have taken the logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy -
> push it in ( or pull it out) depending where its got stuck and then
> open the door. you need to lube the mechanism from the same hole for
> it not to happen again, but don't use WD40 as it will dry out and
> seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube Teflon lube ( courtesy of
> work) and its been fine since.
> PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can
> pop it back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70
> for the privilege!!
>
>
> Cheers, Steve
>
>
> "Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>
>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>> might share.TIA
>>
>>
>> B

Doesn't sound awfully secure!

--
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person
doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!

 

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StaffBull

Guest

• Feb 2, 2005

• #5

Dunno if it'll open when locked haven't tried it - but it sorts the problem
described here
"GbH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In news:[email protected],
> StaffBull <[email protected]> blithered:
>> Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a
>> knife or small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where
>> you have taken the logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy -
>> push it in ( or pull it out) depending where its got stuck and then
>> open the door. you need to lube the mechanism from the same hole for
>> it not to happen again, but don't use WD40 as it will dry out and
>> seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube Teflon lube ( courtesy of
>> work) and its been fine since.
>> PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can
>> pop it back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70
>> for the privilege!!
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Steve
>>
>>
>> "Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>>
>>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>>> might share.TIA
>>>
>>>
>>> B
>
> Doesn't sound awfully secure!
>
> --
> "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person
> doing it."
>
> If at first you don't succeed,
> maybe skydiving's not for you!
>
>
>

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Feb 3, 2005

• #6

On or around Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:55:29 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a knife or
>small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where you have taken the
>logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy - push it in ( or pull it
>out) depending where its got stuck and then open the door. you need to lube
>the mechanism from the same hole for it not to happen again, but don't use
>WD40 as it will dry out and seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube Teflon
>lube ( courtesy of work) and its been fine since.
>
>PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can pop it
>back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70 for the
>privilege!!

I put spray grease on mine. Also got tuits to do the window tracks with
silicone stuff, makes 'em, go up and down much better. In fact, with the
little tube, you can get at the pivots (which are mostly where it sticks)
from underneath the handle. Might be easier as described though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

 

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Bananaramma

Guest

• Feb 3, 2005

• #7

Hi Bob, Unfortunately there is no lock barrel on the tailgate on
these.




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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC), "Bob Sinclair"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Try putting the door key in the lock barrel from the outside and turn fully
>anticlockwise then (without letting the key turn back) lift the lever.
>
>If it opens normally then I suggest that a small spring in the lock/lever
>mechanism has either become displaced or snapped - just like mine.
>
>If this doesn't happen, then I can't help I'm afraid.
>
>Bob.
>
>"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>
>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>> might share.TIA
>>
>>
>> B
>

 

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Bananaramma

Guest

• Feb 3, 2005

• #8

Hi Staffbull, I did pry the logo off the other day and (shudder)
sprayed a bit o wd40 in the lever hole but to no avail. Interesting
though, as the lever doesn't seem stuck, it seems totally free but
doesn't feel as though it's engaged (connected) to anything and maybe
has come unatached from the actual latch.
I will poke around some more tomorrow.

My wife isn't overly impressed that we parked the roomy Isuzu Trooper
to buy this and now she has to put groceries in through the back seat.
Oh well, it drives like heaven and one can't deny that!



On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:55:29 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a knife or
>small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where you have taken the
>logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy - push it in ( or pull it
>out) depending where its got stuck and then open the door. you need to lube
>the mechanism from the same hole for it not to happen again, but don't use
>WD40 as it will dry out and seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube Teflon
>lube ( courtesy of work) and its been fine since.
>
>PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can pop it
>back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70 for the
>privilege!!
>
>
>Cheers, Steve
>
>
>"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>
>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>> might share.TIA
>>
>>
>> B
>

 

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StaffBull

Guest

• Feb 3, 2005

• #9

Did you spray the lever hole on the inside? if it is then you need to take
off the land rover logo on the rear door as I explained on the outside this
creates a hole you can access the mechanism as described


"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi Staffbull, I did pry the logo off the other day and (shudder)
> sprayed a bit o wd40 in the lever hole but to no avail. Interesting
> though, as the lever doesn't seem stuck, it seems totally free but
> doesn't feel as though it's engaged (connected) to anything and maybe
> has come unatached from the actual latch.
> I will poke around some more tomorrow.
>
> My wife isn't overly impressed that we parked the roomy Isuzu Trooper
> to buy this and now she has to put groceries in through the back seat.
> Oh well, it drives like heaven and one can't deny that!
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:55:29 -0000, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a knife or
>>small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where you have taken
>>the
>>logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy - push it in ( or pull it
>>out) depending where its got stuck and then open the door. you need to
>>lube
>>the mechanism from the same hole for it not to happen again, but don't use
>>WD40 as it will dry out and seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube
>>Teflon
>>lube ( courtesy of work) and its been fine since.
>>
>>PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can pop it
>>back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70 for the
>>privilege!!
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Steve
>>
>>
>>"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>>
>>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>>> might share.TIA
>>>
>>>
>>> B
>>
>

 

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Bananaramma

Guest

• Feb 5, 2005

• #10

Thanks for the tips all. It finally started working again as I
followed your advice Staffbull and pulled the logo. I think it may
have taken a bit for the WD-40 to penetrate. I have sinse got some
silicone lube and sprayed the mechanisms to fend off any further
moisture,(hopefully). Thanks all for the advice

B




On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:39:44 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Did you spray the lever hole on the inside? if it is then you need to take
>off the land rover logo on the rear door as I explained on the outside this
>creates a hole you can access the mechanism as described
>
>
>"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Hi Staffbull, I did pry the logo off the other day and (shudder)
>> sprayed a bit o wd40 in the lever hole but to no avail. Interesting
>> though, as the lever doesn't seem stuck, it seems totally free but
>> doesn't feel as though it's engaged (connected) to anything and maybe
>> has come unatached from the actual latch.
>> I will poke around some more tomorrow.
>>
>> My wife isn't overly impressed that we parked the roomy Isuzu Trooper
>> to buy this and now she has to put groceries in through the back seat.
>> Oh well, it drives like heaven and one can't deny that!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:55:29 -0000, "StaffBull"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Prize off the rear landrover logo off the rear door handle with a knife or
>>>small flat screwdriver - put ure finger in the hole where you have taken
>>>the
>>>logo off you will feel a lever/bar type thingy - push it in ( or pull it
>>>out) depending where its got stuck and then open the door. you need to
>>>lube
>>>the mechanism from the same hole for it not to happen again, but don't use
>>>WD40 as it will dry out and seize up the mechanism, I used Superlube
>>>Teflon
>>>lube ( courtesy of work) and its been fine since.
>>>
>>>PS don't worry about the badge it clips on not sticks on so you can pop it
>>>back, a LR dealer would do the above and charge you about £70 for the
>>>privilege!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers, Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bananaramma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> My recent purchase of my first ever Landy has me scratching my head
>>>> over some bizare door latch behavior. First it was the right rear
>>>> passenger door that wouldn't open and I remedied by wedging a tool to
>>>> lift the child lock and then removed the liner to lubricate the latch
>>>> system. Now with that door fixed, the tailgate won't open.
>>>>
>>>> It seems there is no load on the inside or outside levers, they just
>>>> lift with no resistance as though there is a child lock on them as
>>>> well. I removed the liner and can't really see whats wrong.
>>>> As I await my manual to arrive I plead for any wisdom that someone
>>>> might share.TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>
>>
>

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Feb 5, 2005

• #11

On or around Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:52:29 -0800, Bananaramma <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>Thanks for the tips all. It finally started working again as I
>followed your advice Staffbull and pulled the logo. I think it may
>have taken a bit for the WD-40 to penetrate. I have sinse got some
>silicone lube and sprayed the mechanisms to fend off any further
>moisture,(hopefully). Thanks all for the advice

Silicone lube is ace for window tracks. Done all ours, windows now go up
and down much more nicely.

I used spray-on grease for the door hinges etc., but not the locks.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.