96 Disco ES stereo

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Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
doing wrong.

added a cd auto-changer I got off eBay for £50 ( original was missing)
excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :) not quite
as good as my Musical Fidelity/B&W setup in the house - but good for a car.


 
'Tis a common problem ... something to do with the switches themselves.

There are replacement switches that cure the problem and they're quite
inexpensive (even from your local dealer) :)

I've got a spare set of duff ones like yours if you want them :))

Regards

Steve G



StaffBull wrote:
> Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
> binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
> I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
> doing wrong.
>
> added a cd auto-changer I got off eBay for £50 ( original was missing)
> excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :) not quite
> as good as my Musical Fidelity/B&W setup in the house - but good for a car.
>
>

 
Even being the hoarder I am - I'll pass on the duff set all the same !!
cheers. Is there some "intelligence" in the switches? I would have gone for
the stereo miss interpreting a signal and giving the wrong command to switch
station -I'll pull the switches off the 300 Tdi at the WE as they are not
used ( MP3/CD head unit fitted). Thanks for the pointer.

Steve.


"SteveG <"s.goodfellow"@blueyonder" <"dot> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 'Tis a common problem ... something to do with the switches themselves.
>
> There are replacement switches that cure the problem and they're quite
> inexpensive (even from your local dealer) :)
>
> I've got a spare set of duff ones like yours if you want them :))
>
> Regards
>
> Steve G
>
>
>
> StaffBull wrote:
>> Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
>> binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
>> I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
>> doing wrong.
>>
>> added a cd auto-changer I got off eBay for £50 ( original was missing)
>> excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :) not
>> quite as good as my Musical Fidelity/B&W setup in the house - but good
>> for a car.



 
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0000, StaffBull wrote:

> Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted
> on the binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the
> next track.


On later Discovery's, with the switches on the steering wheel, you
have 3 switches volume up/down (pull/push) and skip forward/back
(pull/push) amd mode (press end). How many switches do you have? If
you have skip ones do they adjust the volume? Swap the key caps...

> excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :)


I find it rather bright and lacking in the bottom end (yes the sub is
working) and even flat out isn't that loud but it is clean.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
I think they are all push type -I'll check tomorrow, by "late" do you mean
the disco II ?

I found the bottom end acceptable on the stereo, Joss Stones Soul Sessions
was more than what i would expect from a 10 year old car stereo the only
thing I have heard to better it at the moment (standard) is the Dolby system
fitted to SE spec Volvo V70,S60 etc now that sounds bloody amazing.

"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0000, StaffBull wrote:
>
>> Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted
>> on the binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the
>> next track.

>
> On later Discovery's, with the switches on the steering wheel, you
> have 3 switches volume up/down (pull/push) and skip forward/back
> (pull/push) amd mode (press end). How many switches do you have? If
> you have skip ones do they adjust the volume? Swap the key caps...
>
>> excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :)

>
> I find it rather bright and lacking in the bottom end (yes the sub is
> working) and even flat out isn't that loud but it is clean.
>
> --
> Cheers [email protected]
> Dave. pam is missing e-mail
>
>
>



 
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
>binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
> I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
>doing wrong.


I had my Volume Up button and my Next button both replaced twice under
warranty. The Volume up button has failed again, so I might get them
to replace it on Monday when I have my next service.

It does seem to be a common, and repetitive, problem!

Judith
 
I can try the one from our 300Tdi and see if that works - It's only a small
problem but annoying none the less!!!

Cheers,

Steve



"Judith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0000, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
>>binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
>> I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
>>doing wrong.

>
> I had my Volume Up button and my Next button both replaced twice under
> warranty. The Volume up button has failed again, so I might get them
> to replace it on Monday when I have my next service.
>
> It does seem to be a common, and repetitive, problem!
>
> Judith



 
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:34:19 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I can try the one from our 300Tdi and see if that works - It's only a small
>problem but annoying none the less!!!


*very* annoying. I've got used to it now but I used to hear something
interesting on the radio and decide to nudge the volume up a little
...... and the flipping thing would change channel and I'd miss
whatever I wanted to hear! Grr!

I'm sure there must be a proper solution to the problem? I mean, are
these buttons just really badly made? Or is the LR stereo system
badly designed? Oh well, this is the first LR that I've had an FM
radio in (let alone a CD player!) so mustn't grumble!

Judith
 

"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I can try the one from our 300Tdi and see if that works - It's only a small
>problem but annoying none the less!!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
>
>

The ones on my ES went duff, they work by shorting resistors to give a
different voltage at the input to the head unit so a bit of crud on the
switch contacts can make them miss read. I initially thought they were all
different inputs but they are all wired in series with resisters.

I got rid of my problem by getting an RDS Radio/MP3 CD player, 14 CDs
compressed onto one CD with no real loss of quality.

Peter.


 
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:44:03 -0000, Peter Seddon wrote:

> The ones on my ES went duff, they work by shorting resistors to give
> a different voltage at the input to the head unit so a bit of crud
> on the switch contacts can make them miss read. I initially thought
> they were all different inputs but they are all wired in series with
> resisters.


Well in the Disco II (yes the later models...) the remote is via a
resistor chain and switches to connect each join between each resistor
to another wire so not quite what you are describing but pretty
similar.

Been digging in the RAVE and this is the remote switching for all
variants in the Disci II (fixed pitch font required):

<---+---390R---+---470R---+---820R---+---1E3---+---1E3---+
To | | | | | |
Radio s V+ s V- s S+ s S- s Mode s Remote
| | | | | | end/End
<---+----------+----------+----------+---------+---------+

Where:
s is a push to make switch
V is volume
S is skip

I'm not sure what value the 1E3 represents it could be 1.3k ohms or
1.0k ohms. As can be seen if the resistance of the V+ button is 860R
(ish) it is the same as the S+ button.

Of course there is no telling of the Disco I arrangement of button
fuction and/or resistor values is the same but a merry few minutes
with a multimeter should see what is going on.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
My 96 ES Disco still had the problem with it's original switches. I
don't know when LR introduced the modified versions.

Regards

Steve G



StaffBull wrote:
> Even being the hoarder I am - I'll pass on the duff set all the same !!
> cheers. Is there some "intelligence" in the switches? I would have gone for
> the stereo miss interpreting a signal and giving the wrong command to switch
> station -I'll pull the switches off the 300 Tdi at the WE as they are not
> used ( MP3/CD head unit fitted). Thanks for the pointer.
>
> Steve.
>
>
>

 

"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:44:03 -0000, Peter Seddon wrote:
>
>> The ones on my ES went duff, they work by shorting resistors to give
>> a different voltage at the input to the head unit so a bit of crud
>> on the switch contacts can make them miss read. I initially thought
>> they were all different inputs but they are all wired in series with
>> resisters.

>
> Well in the Disco II (yes the later models...) the remote is via a
> resistor chain and switches to connect each join between each resistor
> to another wire so not quite what you are describing but pretty
> similar.
>
> Been digging in the RAVE and this is the remote switching for all
> variants in the Disci II (fixed pitch font required):
>
> <---+---390R---+---470R---+---820R---+---1E3---+---1E3---+
> To | | | | | |
> Radio s V+ s V- s S+ s S- s Mode s Remote
> | | | | | | end/End
> <---+----------+----------+----------+---------+---------+
>
> Where:
> s is a push to make switch
> V is volume
> S is skip
>
> I'm not sure what value the 1E3 represents it could be 1.3k ohms or
> 1.0k ohms. As can be seen if the resistance of the V+ button is 860R
> (ish) it is the same as the S+ button.
>
> Of course there is no telling of the Disco I arrangement of button
> fuction and/or resistor values is the same but a merry few minutes
> with a multimeter should see what is going on.
>
> --
> Cheers [email protected]
> Dave. pam is missing e-mail
>
>
>


On Disco 1 pressing the buttons grounds the lead from the radio at various
points along a resistor chain. Vol Down puts a direct ground to the radio
input so when the buttons refused to do what they were told on my disc a
press on the vol down used to sort it out. Sounded like a charge was picked
up on the loom. After most of the buttons had fallen off the front of the
radio I decided to upgrade to an MP3 cd player/RDS radio.

Peter.


 
"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:44 -0000, StaffBull wrote:


> snip


> I find it rather bright and lacking in the bottom end (yes the sub is
> working) and even flat out isn't that loud but it is clean.


Just thought I would mention that I found one of the two bass speakers in my
97 Disco to be seized.
I thought the bass was rather poor considering there are two speakers and a
separate amplifier so I carried out a careful inspection one afternoon.
Discovered that the speaker cone on one unit did not move a mm while the
other pulsed very well. Thought the voice coil might be stuck because of
grit or corrosion but could not free it up. Finally carried out a
destructive investigation and discovered the central steel core had been
installed off-center and was pinching the voice coil. Speaker never worked
properly from Day 1. So much for QC on the speakers. Replaced both with
JBLs and now have very nice base. Interestingly the mounting holes for the
JBLs lined up perfectly.


 
It gets stranger !! with the engine off and just on aux position all buttons
work fine !! oh the joy of the Land Rover why the hell did I not buy
Japanese !!!



"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Is my stereo playing up? when i press the volume up button mounted on the
> binnacle the radio changes stations or the cd skips to the next track.
> I have no instructions for it so don't know if there is something I am
> doing wrong.
>
> added a cd auto-changer I got off eBay for £50 ( original was missing)
> excellent quality sound off the ES's premium speaker pack !! :) not quite
> as good as my Musical Fidelity/B&W setup in the house - but good for a
> car.
>



 
"Gordon Wedman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:WoaId.39714$06.4164@clgrps12...
> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message So much for QC on
> the speakers. Replaced both with JBLs and now have very nice base.
> Interestingly the mounting holes for the JBLs lined up perfectly.


Are theses both mounted in the rear door. I have a rear near side refuses to
play ball. I suspect wiring is an issue as I've swapped the other one over.

I also have the switches with the random effects dependant on if your
listening to something interesting and need it louder.

Lee D


 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Gordon Wedman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:WoaId.39714$06.4164@clgrps12...
>> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message So much for QC on
>> the speakers. Replaced both with JBLs and now have very nice base.
>> Interestingly the mounting holes for the JBLs lined up perfectly.

>
> Are theses both mounted in the rear door. I have a rear near side refuses
> to play ball. I suspect wiring is an issue as I've swapped the other one
> over.
>
> I also have the switches with the random effects dependant on if your
> listening to something interesting and need it louder.
>
> Lee D


Yes, the speakers I am referring to are both in the rear door. When I
replaced them I could not find 6 1/2 inch bass-only speakers that did not
come in a kit with tweeters/midrange speakers so I purchased 2-way speakers.
I reasoned the stereo system must have a crossover somewhere that sends only
low frequencies to the rear door speakers. In this case the midrange
speaker of the 2-way design would not get any frequencies it could reproduce
and that would be OK. I imagine these speakers are not quite as good as
bass-only 6 1/2 speakers but they sound pretty good.
As for strange electrical problems, have a look at my "97 Disco weird
electrical problem" post from a few weeks ago. The problem here turned out
to be a broken wire on a "header junction". Apparently Land Rovers have
quite a few of these junction boxes and they often cause problems,
especially if they get wet and corrode. Mine was in the driver's side kick
panel. Don't know where others are located.


 
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