6-wheelers (offroaders and lorries) and transmission wind-up?

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On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:55:27 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>http://www.pinzgauer.uk.com/user_files/video/Pinzgauer.wmv
>>
>> only works in IE. crap webdesign to the fore again.
>
>I just fed it to wget then to mplayer, which I routinely do with links
>to actual video files rather than to the ever-useless in-page players.

I need to sort mine - bloody nero showtime grabbed the filetypes and is even
more crap than windows meejaplaya.

Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
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On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...

Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.

The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think, but
they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.

Bear in mind the 16MPG fuel figures, not sure if you can LPG it but I
expect so (although I won't).

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On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:23:43 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
>
>Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
>the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
>bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.
>
>The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think, but
>they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.
>
>Bear in mind the 16MPG fuel figures, not sure if you can LPG it but I
>expect so (although I won't).

yer can LPG anything if you try...
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:23:43 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
>>
>> Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
>> the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
>> bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.
>>
>> The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think,
>> but they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.
>>
>> Bear in mind the 16MPG fuel figures, not sure if you can LPG it but I
>> expect so (although I won't).
>
> yer can LPG anything if you try...


Try Ernie's Milk float!
--
"He who says it cannot be done is advised not to interrupt her doing
it."

The fiend of my fiend is my enema!


 
On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:05:58 GMT, "GbH"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:23:43 +0100, Ian Rawlings
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
>>>
>>> Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
>>> the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
>>> bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.
>>>
>>> The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think,
>>> but they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind the 16MPG fuel figures, not sure if you can LPG it but I
>>> expect so (although I won't).
>>
>> yer can LPG anything if you try...
>
>
>Try Ernie's Milk float!

it'd be greenest milkfloat in the west, then...

someone took one of those putt-putt-engine ice cream trikes and put a 1500
leadwing engine in it, once.

but more seriously - the pinzi should be easy enough to LPG. Are they
air-cooled? if so, the heat exchanger aspect is a tad more tricky, but you
can invent a thing involving a small circulating pump and tubing around the
exhaust...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
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In message <[email protected]>
"GbH" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Austin Shackles wrote:
> > On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:23:43 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >> On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
> >>
> >> Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
> >> the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
> >> bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.
> >>
> >> The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think,
> >> but they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.
> >>
> >> Bear in mind the 16MPG fuel figures, not sure if you can LPG it but I
> >> expect so (although I won't).
> >
> > yer can LPG anything if you try...
>
>
> Try Ernie's Milk float!

You've never driven a horse & cart then....... gas is *plentiful* !!

Richard
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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mind, a 6x6 Pinzy would make a nice minibus...
>
> Get an ambulance body, bosh a few holes in it, bolt a park bench in
> the back, job done! Rear body is a fibreglass drop-on to the load
> bed, slide it off and you've got a straight pinz.
>
> The hard-top version (712K) already has a few extra seats I think, but
> they're hard to find as they weren't popular with the military.
>
I used to MOT a Red Bull promotion Pinz. had hydraulic rams to lift the roof,
disco lights ( not the LR type),turntables,speakers and a big sod off fridge
for freebies
had difficulty with the brake rollers so just had to give it a run up the road
a thought occured to me then " gotta get me one o'them"
not a great driving position aand this onewas leaft hand drive but really g
ood fun

--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green


 
On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> but more seriously - the pinzi should be easy enough to LPG. Are they
> air-cooled?

Yep. I put an absurdly low offer in on the one I saw on Wednesday (no
service history, no proper test drive, large military company owner,
not the guy's money he's dealing with, it's getting in their way) and
it wasn't rejected or accepted, so perhaps next week I might be able
to give you more detail ;-)

> if so, the heat exchanger aspect is a tad more tricky, but you can
> invent a thing involving a small circulating pump and tubing around
> the exhaust...

There's a heat exchanger on the exhaust already for the cabin heating,
not sure quite how much heat you need for LPG however.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On 2006-03-31, beamendsltd <[email protected]> wrote:

> You've never driven a horse & cart then....... gas is *plentiful* !!

Yeah but liquid gas? It doesn't bear thinking about....

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On 2006-03-31, Andy.Smalley <[email protected]> wrote:

> had difficulty with the brake rollers so just had to give it a run
> up the road a thought occured to me then " gotta get me one o'them"
> not a great driving position aand this onewas leaft hand drive but
> really g ood fun

I think all of the older ones are lefties, damned furriners! Hardly
likely to overtake much however.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:12:46 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> but more seriously - the pinzi should be easy enough to LPG. Are they
>> air-cooled?
>
>Yep. I put an absurdly low offer in on the one I saw on Wednesday (no
>service history, no proper test drive, large military company owner,
>not the guy's money he's dealing with, it's getting in their way) and
>it wasn't rejected or accepted, so perhaps next week I might be able
>to give you more detail ;-)
>
Where was that? I was having a look online. Found 1 4x4 on eBay and an
american site selling 'em for many dollars, and that was it.

>> if so, the heat exchanger aspect is a tad more tricky, but you can
>> invent a thing involving a small circulating pump and tubing around
>> the exhaust...
>
>There's a heat exchanger on the exhaust already for the cabin heating,
>not sure quite how much heat you need for LPG however.

not all that much, but most vapourisers are set up to work with liquid
coolant. I've an idea someone did make one for air-cooled engines but I
don't know any detail.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
On or around Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:51 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-03-31, Andy.Smalley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> had difficulty with the brake rollers so just had to give it a run
>> up the road a thought occured to me then " gotta get me one o'them"
>> not a great driving position aand this onewas leaft hand drive but
>> really g ood fun
>
>I think all of the older ones are lefties, damned furriners! Hardly
>likely to overtake much however.

that could be a drawback for making a minibus out of it, at that.

I think I'll stick to the hybrid tranny idea.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:50:09 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The engine is a specially-designed air-cooled straight four 2.5 litre
>petrol, it uses common carbs (either stromberg or webber, can't
>remember). The newer machines use a specially-designed diesel,
>however it was designed by VW so probably looks quite familiar.

and i thought a 101 with a 3.5 v8 felt a bit sluggish!. Isnt a 2.5
petrol a bit underpowered?

(not that i would turn one down ;) sounds like fun!)
 
I've got a WW2 GMC 6x6 'Jimmy', the rear 8 wheels are permanent drive with
the the front 2 selectable, 6x4 or 6x6. There are 3 drive shafts coming out
of the transfere box, 1 to the front and 1 each to each of the 2 axles. I've
never heard of there being a problem with wind up with this arrangement.


"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello peeps, it looks like I've fallen in love with a beautiful
> swedish model who is incompatible with my landrover, so am likely to
> be selling it at some point so she can move in. Once she's settled in
> I will get a non-threatening series 1 80" that's been on the cards for
> a while.
>
> She has six wheels, the rear four of which are driven permanently with
> the front pair driven only when engaged off-road. There is no diff
> between the two rear axles, just a solid shaft, with the axle centres
> being about a metre and a half apart. I thought that I'd ask you
> chaps about opinions on this, and if six-wheeler lorries are set up
> the same way.
>
> It appears that this setup is fine as the reputation for reliability
> of these machines (Pinzgauer) is rock-solid, so I can only assume that
> the wind-up between these two axles is minimal due to them being so
> close together, and there are chances for wind-up to be relieved while
> the twin rears are slipping sideways during tight corners.
>
> So any thoughts on this? It'll be at least 6 months before the landy
> goes up for sale, if I don't have a change of heart in the meantime.
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!


 
On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Where was that? I was having a look online. Found 1 4x4 on eBay and an
> american site selling 'em for many dollars, and that was it.

Details kept under wraps until he's either accepted or rejected my offer ;-)

> not all that much, but most vapourisers are set up to work with liquid
> coolant. I've an idea someone did make one for air-cooled engines but I
> don't know any detail.

There's a dealer in Harrogate who sells them already LPG'd, I think
it's the same chap who's selling the 4x4 on ebay.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On 2006-03-31, Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> and i thought a 101 with a 3.5 v8 felt a bit sluggish!. Isnt a 2.5
> petrol a bit underpowered?

It develops about 80BHP, which is a little less than my 110 300TDi did
when I bought it, so yes it will seem sluggish! It does however
weight about the same as the 110, not sure how much a 101 weights but
the pinz is a much smaller vehicle than the 101.

If I get the chance to, I'll drive it on the roads to see what it's
like but I don't think it's so bad as to be unuseable.

--
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On 2006-04-01, Bill Payer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've got a WW2 GMC 6x6 'Jimmy', the rear 8 wheels are permanent
> drive with the the front 2 selectable, 6x4 or 6x6. There are 3 drive
> shafts coming out of the transfere box, 1 to the front and 1 each to
> each of the 2 axles.

Cheers for that. Any idea why they chose that arrangement? It seems
odd to run an extra shaft when drive could have been taken from the
front-most rear axle. I suppose that making an axle with the
pass-through might either be more complicated than I suspect or would
have caused problems with spares.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
On or around Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:12:57 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-03-31, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Where was that? I was having a look online. Found 1 4x4 on eBay and an
>> american site selling 'em for many dollars, and that was it.
>
>Details kept under wraps until he's either accepted or rejected my offer ;-)
>
>> not all that much, but most vapourisers are set up to work with liquid
>> coolant. I've an idea someone did make one for air-cooled engines but I
>> don't know any detail.
>
>There's a dealer in Harrogate who sells them already LPG'd, I think
>it's the same chap who's selling the 4x4 on ebay.

ah, could be. he doesn't seem to have a website, or not that I could find.

Mind, fun though it'd be, I can't afford one anyway.
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Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25
 
On or around Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:29:20 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-04-01, Bill Payer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've got a WW2 GMC 6x6 'Jimmy', the rear 8 wheels are permanent
>> drive with the the front 2 selectable, 6x4 or 6x6. There are 3 drive
>> shafts coming out of the transfere box, 1 to the front and 1 each to
>> each of the 2 axles.
>
>Cheers for that. Any idea why they chose that arrangement? It seems
>odd to run an extra shaft when drive could have been taken from the
>front-most rear axle. I suppose that making an axle with the
>pass-through might either be more complicated than I suspect or would
>have caused problems with spares.

It's less prone to immobilise itself, maybe. If you lose one shaft, the you
lose all the back drive, with a pass-through diff. Also by doing it like
that you should be able to use a single standard axle type for the back end.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25
 
On 2006-04-01, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> ah, could be. he doesn't seem to have a website, or not that I could find.

No, looks like the internet is new territory for him.

> Mind, fun though it'd be, I can't afford one anyway.

Neither can I, it's not a valid excuse!

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