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On 2006-09-08, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can vouch for the fact that the research in question is a real
> person, and is interested in getting a balanced view of the story.


That's hardly relevant, it's what is made of that story. I don't
think I'm being cynical when I feel that the story will not be
balanced, it'll be the usual rabid rantings with no backup from
independent sources. It's on telly, and it's on ITV, just one of
those two bodes very ill indeed, but both at once spells trouble.
Great play will be made of mud, with lots of shots of it, little
mention of the elderly or infirm, or of volunteer groups cleaning up
the mess in the countryside. They will talk about the rise in
road-going 4x4s and imply that the countryside is flooded with them
etc etc etc ad infinitum.

In short, same old ****.

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:42:30 +0100, Ian Rawlings <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2006-09-08, AndyC the WB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can vouch for the fact that the research in question is a real
>> person, and is interested in getting a balanced view of the story.

>
>That's hardly relevant, it's what is made of that story. I don't
>think I'm being cynical when I feel that the story will not be
>balanced, it'll be the usual rabid rantings with no backup from
>independent sources. It's on telly, and it's on ITV, just one of
>those two bodes very ill indeed, but both at once spells trouble.
>Great play will be made of mud, with lots of shots of it, little
>mention of the elderly or infirm, or of volunteer groups cleaning up
>the mess in the countryside. They will talk about the rise in
>road-going 4x4s and imply that the countryside is flooded with them
>etc etc etc ad infinitum.
>
>In short, same old ****.


The bottom line is that both sides will come out looking bad and
selfish they always do IMHO. It is exceedingly rare (maybe even
unheard of) for a leisure 4x4 user to manage to avoid saying the wrong
thing and therefore coming over as a selfish fool. I'd think the best
answer is for all of the 4x4 side of this facile argument to avoid
partaking in the programme. If the Programme makers go ahead and
produce a programme that is no more than a one sided rant from the
greenies, it may well do us a lot of favours. Just one misguided
comment from our side can all to often do the exact opposite ;(

Regards

Tim Jones
 
On 2006-09-08, Tim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd think the best answer is for all of the 4x4 side of this facile
> argument to avoid partaking in the programme.


Sadly they'll always find at least one person with a range rover who
will waffle on about how powerful it is and how they like to tower
above everyone else in traffic (apart from lorries, vans, defenders
etc etc). They'll also always find someone who goes on about mud
plugging, why should the programme makers talk to reasonable people
when there are enough stereotypes on both sides gagging to get their
face on the telly?

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PDannyD wrote:

|| On Thursday 07 September 2006 20:09, Richard Brookman
|| [[email protected]] wrote in message
|| <[email protected]>
||
||| Lee_D wrote:
|||
||||| DavidM <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
||||| about:
|||||| There is sure to be an anti 4x4 spokes-person with a rehearsed
|||||| list of "facts" and horror stories. When they accuse you of
|||||| giving their child asthma and running over their cat there is
|||||| little you can come back with.
|||||
||||| Who told them about the cat?
|||||
||||| ;-)
|||||
||||| They are ultimately at the mercy of the host.
|||||
||||| Lee D
|||
||| I hit a cat in Sussex the other day. I was doing 60 at the time.
||| I was in
||| the works Megane, though. Does that count?
||
|| Was it a 4x4 Megane? I suspect it must have been. Only 4x4s are
|| dangerous. 2WD vehicles use no fuel[1], they reduce congestion and
|| pedestrians just bounce off with a laugh and a friendly wave.
||
|| [1] in fact, they only turn up to filling stations to RETURN fuel
|| which nasty 4x4s then steal.

Hehe. No, it was a good old FWD estate. But the cat did bounce a bit, and
I suppose it might have been a wave I saw in the mirror.

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Steve wrote:

|| "Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote
|| in message news:[email protected]...
||| Lee_D wrote:
|||
|||
||| I hit a cat in Sussex the other day. I was doing 60 at the time.
||| I was in the works Megane, though.
||
|| Part of the cat is now also in the works Megane. The remainder
|| ricocheted nicely and is no longer in Sussex.
||
|| Steve

Yup.

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"bumble101" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I received a phone call this morning from 'Catherine'. She did comment
> that there had been a sudden surge in pro Land Rover emails. It was
> inconvenient for me to talk at work, but she is ringing again this
> afternoon.
>
> Let's hope we are not strung out to dry for the entertainment of the
> nation. =:-( )
> Neil
>

I would advise people to keep clear of taking part in this programme. It is
standard practice to load the interviews. They decide which way to slant it
and then cut bits out of the interviews to suit their cause. Then can
usually find some nutter who is so keen to be on the telly and talks a load
of rubbish. I have seen it done with Trade Union meetings about strikes and
when I saw the actual bit on the TV it was almost unrecogniseable. I have
also seen the same thing done with a programme about Spiritualism they were
not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.
I think the magazines should do more- what about some stickers? I sent cards
about 4x4s to Lib Dem friends of mine. They did not even know there was a
difference between 4x4s and people carriers!
Alan


 
On 2006-09-08, Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:

> not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.


Was she naked?

Fnarr fnarr..

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-08, Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.
||
|| Was she naked?
||
|| Fnarr fnarr..

Hope the tree got wood.

Fnarr.

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On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.

>>
>> Was she naked?
>>
>> Fnarr fnarr..

>
> Hope the tree got wood.
>
> Fnarr.


I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.

hoop foorp fnarr *choke*

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.
||||
|||| Was she naked?
||||
|||| Fnarr fnarr..
|||
||| Hope the tree got wood.
|||
||| Fnarr.
||
|| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
||
|| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*

Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.

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On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>|| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>|| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||
>||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a tree.
>||||
>|||| Was she naked?
>||||
>|||| Fnarr fnarr..
>|||
>||| Hope the tree got wood.
>|||
>||| Fnarr.
>||
>|| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
>||
>|| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
>
> Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.


I need a towel for my dowel.

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||
||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||
|||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a
|||||||| tree.
|||||||
||||||| Was she naked?
|||||||
||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
||||||
|||||| Hope the tree got wood.
||||||
|||||| Fnarr.
|||||
||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
|||||
||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
|||
||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
||
|| I need a towel for my dowel.

I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.

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On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>|| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>|| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||
>||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>|||
>||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>|||||
>|||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a
>|||||||| tree.
>|||||||
>||||||| Was she naked?
>|||||||
>||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
>||||||
>|||||| Hope the tree got wood.
>||||||
>|||||| Fnarr.
>|||||
>||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
>|||||
>||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
>|||
>||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
>||
>|| I need a towel for my dowel.
>
> I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.


She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||
||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||
|||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
||||||
|||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
|||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
||||||||
||||||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a
||||||||||| tree.
||||||||||
|||||||||| Was she naked?
||||||||||
|||||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
|||||||||
||||||||| Hope the tree got wood.
|||||||||
||||||||| Fnarr.
||||||||
|||||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
||||||||
|||||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
||||||
|||||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
|||||
||||| I need a towel for my dowel.
|||
||| I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.
||
|| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
||

Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.

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On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>|| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
>|| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||
>||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>|||
>||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>|||||
>|||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>||||||
>|||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>|||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||||||||
>||||||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging a
>||||||||||| tree.
>||||||||||
>|||||||||| Was she naked?
>||||||||||
>|||||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
>|||||||||
>||||||||| Hope the tree got wood.
>|||||||||
>||||||||| Fnarr.
>||||||||
>|||||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
>||||||||
>|||||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
>||||||
>|||||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
>|||||
>||||| I need a towel for my dowel.
>|||
>||| I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.
>||
>|| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
>||
>
> Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.


Well, I nailed her anyway.

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Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>>> She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
>>>>

>>
>> Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.

>
> Well, I nailed her anyway.


Yeahs , you know it's done right if you've given it a good banging, provided
it's not at the crack of dawn.

Lee D


 
Lee_D wrote:

|| Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
|| about:
|||||| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
||||||
||||
|||| Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.
|||
||| Well, I nailed her anyway.
||
|| Yeahs , you know it's done right if you've given it a good banging,
|| provided it's not at the crack of dawn.
||
|| Lee D

No need, Simon, I've got him covered. Fnarr.

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||
||||| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||
|||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
||||||
|||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
|||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
||||||||
||||||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||||||||
||||||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
||||||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||||||||
|||||||||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging
|||||||||||||| a tree.
|||||||||||||
||||||||||||| Was she naked?
|||||||||||||
||||||||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
||||||||||||
|||||||||||| Hope the tree got wood.
||||||||||||
|||||||||||| Fnarr.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
|||||||||
||||||||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
||||||||
|||||||| I need a towel for my dowel.
||||||
|||||| I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.
|||||
||||| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
|||||
|||
||| Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.
||
|| Well, I nailed her anyway.

Hammer going to have to stop this now.

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On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>|| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
>|| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||
>||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>|||
>||||| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
>||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>|||||
>|||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>||||||
>|||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>|||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>||||||||
>||||||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
>|||||||||
>||||||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
>||||||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
>|||||||||||
>|||||||||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was hugging
>|||||||||||||| a tree.
>|||||||||||||
>||||||||||||| Was she naked?
>|||||||||||||
>||||||||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
>||||||||||||
>|||||||||||| Hope the tree got wood.
>||||||||||||
>|||||||||||| Fnarr.
>|||||||||||
>||||||||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
>|||||||||||
>||||||||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
>|||||||||
>||||||||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
>||||||||
>|||||||| I need a towel for my dowel.
>||||||
>|||||| I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.
>|||||
>||||| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
>|||||
>|||
>||| Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.
>||
>|| Well, I nailed her anyway.
>
> Hammer going to have to stop this now.


I'd heard you have problems keeping it up!

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Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||
||||| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||
|||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
||||||
|||||||| On 2006-09-09, Richard Brookman
|||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
||||||||
||||||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
|||||||||
||||||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
||||||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
|||||||||||
|||||||||||| Ian Rawlings wrote:
||||||||||||
|||||||||||||| On 2006-09-08, Richard Brookman
|||||||||||||| <[email protected]> wrote:
||||||||||||||
||||||||||||||||| not interested in anyone except the lady who was
||||||||||||||||| hugging a tree.
||||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||||| Was she naked?
||||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||||| Fnarr fnarr..
|||||||||||||||
||||||||||||||| Hope the tree got wood.
|||||||||||||||
||||||||||||||| Fnarr.
||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||| I've got a woodpecker just thinking about it.
||||||||||||||
|||||||||||||| hoop foorp fnarr *choke*
||||||||||||
|||||||||||| Don't put it in cider, whatever you do.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| I need a towel for my dowel.
|||||||||
||||||||| I need someone to show mercy to my Percy.
||||||||
|||||||| She asked me for a joint, I said "how about tongue and groove?"
||||||||
||||||
|||||| Old fashioned - everyone screws these days.
|||||
||||| Well, I nailed her anyway.
|||
||| Hammer going to have to stop this now.
||
|| I'd heard you have problems keeping it up!

No, just problems keeping up!

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