P38A 4.6 2000 X REG

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Henry_b said:
Ha someone doesn't like being corrected i see.

Well tbf it's no skin off the proverbial.
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There are more errors in Wikipedia than in RAVE, I have corrected quite a few, RAVE is correct in this instance but you have clearly never had a flywheel/flex plate assembly in your hands and you obviously, as you say,do not like been corrected.
The RAVE drawing is clear, explicit and correct.
 
Datatek said:
There are more errors in Wikipedia than in RAVE, I have corrected quite a few, RAVE is correct in this instance but you have clearly never had a flywheel/flex plate assembly in your hands and you obviously, as you say,do not like been corrected.
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All things holy.

The flexplate REPLACES the flywheel in an Automatic without the mass.

Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

The flexplate along with the torque converter that serve as a flywheel in cars with an automatic transmission. The torque converter is probably heavier or atleast just as heavy as the flywheel and clutch assembly it replaces, which is the main reason for a flex plate rather than a heavy flywheel.
 
Henry_b said:
All things holy.

The flexplate REPLACES the flywheel in an Automatic without the mass.

Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

The flexplate along with the torque converter that serve as a flywheel in cars with an automatic transmission. The torque converter is probably heavier or atleast just as heavy than the flywheel and clutch assembly it replaces, which is the main reason for a flex plate rather than a heavy flywheel.
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Why can you not read the drawing? The flex plate is a thin plate mounted on the flywheel ring gear unit centre where it attaches to the crank, to which to torque converter bolts, the flywheel is certainly lighter than on a manual, but it is a fecking cast steel lump that has little or no flex and if you look it even has balancing holes drilled in it. When the flex plate cracks, it is that thin inner disc that gets replaced not the flywheel/ring gear.
 
Datatek said:
Why can you not read the drawing? The flex plate is a thin plate mounted on the flywheel ring gear unit centre where it attaches to the crank, to which to torque converter bolts, the flywheel is certainly lighter than on a manual, but it is a fecking cast steel lump that has little or no flex and if you look it even has balancing holes drilled in it. When the flex plate cracks, it is that thin inner disc that gets replaced not the flywheel/ring gear.
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It isn't a flywheel..

I didn't mention replacing the entire thing, i'm well aware of what to replace.

The thin disk is indeed the flexplate the "fecking heavy bit which is rather light" is the driveplate it doesn't store rotational mass and isn't fecking heavy it is rather light.
 
Henry_b said:
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is that not a starter wheel not a drive wheel?
 
Umm....
If there is no heavy flywheel.. or heavy mass.. whatever you want to call it, what keeps the engine turning smoothly?
If there was little or no mass then it would rev up and down much faster, more like a bike engine
 
kermit_rr said:
Umm....
If there is no heavy flywheel.. or heavy mass.. whatever you want to call it, what keeps the engine turning smoothly?
If there was little or no mass then it would rev up and down much faster, more like a bike engine
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The Flexplate is balanced and the Torque converter acts as the rotational mass IE weight..

required for the engine to run smoothly.
 
Henry_b said:
The Flexplate is balanced and the Torque converter acts as the rotational mass IE weight..

required for the engine to run smoothly.
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And the pic you posted is not a flywheel or a drive wheel as you said in another post (a drive wheel has a tyre wrapped around it) it's a starter wheel to engage the starter to start the engine...
 
Shippers said:
And the pic you posted is not a flywheel or a drive wheel as you said in another post (a drive wheel has a tyre wrapped around it) it's a starter wheel to engage the starter to start the engine...
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Or starter plate if you want to be pedantic...as in flex plate blah blah...
 
Henry_b said:
It isn't a flywheel..

I didn't mention replacing the entire thing, i'm well aware of what to replace.

The thin disk is indeed the flexplate the "fecking heavy bit which is rather light" is the driveplate it doesn't store rotational mass and isn't fecking heavy it is rather light.
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This may be a case of differing terminology, you regard the whole assembly as a flex plate. But if you have ever taken one off the crank, the the bit with the ring gear on is a pretty heavy lump with the mass located around the periphery, certainly not as heavy as the flywheel on a manual which also has the clutch assembly adding mass, call that what you may but it has a flywheel effect. The flex plate is the thin disc in the middle to which the torque converter bolts and indeed the torque converter provides additional mass for the flywheel effect.
 
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