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Three weeks into ownershop of my very first Landy and settling into the
quirks of a TD5 Defender. Wonderfull machine! Its my main form of
transport and everytime I come home from work in it I'm grinning from ear to
ear. Can't wait to get back out in it. Bags of character, no other vehicle
I've owned has ever done that for me. I feel like Ray Mears.

Couple of questions someone might be able to answer for me though:
When I indicate, the traffic indicator on the dash blinks as you would
expect but just for the first blink of the indicator, a green symbol of a
trailer also illuminates? I don't have a tow bar or tow electrics fitted -
is this normal? (I'm still under warranty so no big problems sorting it
out).

Also, starting from cold on the morning, 2nd gear can be a bit of a pig to
get into but once I've warmed up it gets easier. This could be me adjusting
to the life of the Landy (last vehicle was a Golf GT TDI) but I also
wondered if it was anything to do with the way I'm leaving it parked on my
moderately sloping drive overnight? I reverse up and leave in reverse with
the handbreak on?

Still Grinning...
Dennis

 

"DB4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C09292FB.2134%[email protected]...
> Three weeks into ownershop of my very first Landy and settling into the
> quirks of a TD5 Defender. Wonderfull machine! Its my main form of
> transport and everytime I come home from work in it I'm grinning from ear
to
> ear. Can't wait to get back out in it. Bags of character, no other
vehicle
> I've owned has ever done that for me. I feel like Ray Mears.
>
> Couple of questions someone might be able to answer for me though:
> When I indicate, the traffic indicator on the dash blinks as you would
> expect but just for the first blink of the indicator, a green symbol of a
> trailer also illuminates? I don't have a tow bar or tow electrics
fitted -
> is this normal? (I'm still under warranty so no big problems sorting it
> out).
>
> Also, starting from cold on the morning, 2nd gear can be a bit of a pig to
> get into but once I've warmed up it gets easier. This could be me
adjusting
> to the life of the Landy (last vehicle was a Golf GT TDI) but I also
> wondered if it was anything to do with the way I'm leaving it parked on my
> moderately sloping drive overnight? I reverse up and leave in reverse with
> the handbreak on?
>
> Still Grinning...
> Dennis
>
Trailer warning lamp flashing on first blink is normal but second synchro
might turn into a warranty issue but, nice one, keep on grinning!

Martin


 
> > Also, starting from cold on the morning, 2nd gear can be a bit of a pig to
> > get into but once I've warmed up it gets easier. This could be me


Fairly normal. Is it in warranty? If so get it looked at. If out,
change the oil for a fully synthentic MT75D from difflock.com, look
there for some good advice as well. Will improve the change but they
are all notchy around 2nd to some degree.

Hope the grin factor stays!!

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5NA (with R380 gbox)
Medway military Vehicle group
www.mmvg.net

 
On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:42:54 +0100, Oily wrote:

> Trailer warning lamp flashing on first blink is normal but second
> synchro might turn into a warranty issue but, nice one, keep on
> grinning!

My view is the opposite...

I don't see why the trailer light should flash at all when there is nor
trailer wiring or trailer...

2nd was notchy on the box that failed on the M6 Shap. The replacement box
was really notchy, so much so that I took to double declutching 1st to
2nd for the first 10mins of any run from cold. It is now fine though, now
that might be just that the recon box has done 10,000 miles and is now
run in or the fact that the temp is no longer at or below freezing
overnight...

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 

"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:42:54 +0100, Oily wrote:
>
> > Trailer warning lamp flashing on first blink is normal but second
> > synchro might turn into a warranty issue but, nice one, keep on
> > grinning!
>
> My view is the opposite...
>
> I don't see why the trailer light should flash at all when there is nor
> trailer wiring or trailer...
>

When a trailer and associated wiring is fitted and connected then the
trailer light will flash continuously with the main indicators unless a
trailer flasher lamp is faulty or the warning lamp bulb is blown, the
warning lamp bulb being checked by one flash whether the trailer is wired or
not.

Martin

> 2nd was notchy on the box that failed on the M6 Shap. The replacement box
> was really notchy, so much so that I took to double declutching 1st to
> 2nd for the first 10mins of any run from cold. It is now fine though, now
> that might be just that the recon box has done 10,000 miles and is now
> run in or the fact that the temp is no longer at or below freezing
> overnight...
>



 
In message <C09292FB.2134%[email protected]>
DB4 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Three weeks into ownershop of my very first Landy and settling into the
> quirks of a TD5 Defender. Wonderfull machine! Its my main form of
> transport and everytime I come home from work in it I'm grinning from ear to
> ear. Can't wait to get back out in it. Bags of character, no other vehicle
> I've owned has ever done that for me. I feel like Ray Mears.
>
> Couple of questions someone might be able to answer for me though:
> When I indicate, the traffic indicator on the dash blinks as you would
> expect but just for the first blink of the indicator, a green symbol of a
> trailer also illuminates? I don't have a tow bar or tow electrics fitted -
> is this normal? (I'm still under warranty so no big problems sorting it
> out).
>

Yes - it's a sort of self-test do you know the bulbs ok.

> Also, starting from cold on the morning, 2nd gear can be a bit of a pig to
> get into but once I've warmed up it gets easier. This could be me adjusting
> to the life of the Landy (last vehicle was a Golf GT TDI) but I also
> wondered if it was anything to do with the way I'm leaving it parked on my
> moderately sloping drive overnight? I reverse up and leave in reverse with
> the handbreak on?
>

It's probably not a problem, but personally I'd raise it with the
dealer so it's recorded if it gets worse. If it does you can
always say you told them about it and gave them the chance to do
something about it.

> Still Grinning...
> Dennis
>

Richard

--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 09:33:13 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Yes - it's a sort of self-test do you know the bulbs ok.
>

doesn't mean the trailer blink thing actually works as it should though.
ours does the self-test bit but doesn't blink when the trailer's connected,
which is a fat lot of use. The one on the 110 used to work as intended.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Blue: The sky is blue for a reason. Blue light is a source of strength
and harmony in the cosmos. Create a blue light in your life by
telephoning the police
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
Austin Shackles wrote:

|| On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 09:33:13 +0100, beamendsltd
|| <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
||
||| Yes - it's a sort of self-test do you know the bulbs ok.
|||
||
|| doesn't mean the trailer blink thing actually works as it should
|| though. ours does the self-test bit but doesn't blink when the
|| trailer's connected, which is a fat lot of use. The one on the 110
|| used to work as intended. --
|| Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
|| Blue: The sky is blue for a reason. Blue light is a source of
|| strength and harmony in the cosmos. Create a blue light in your
|| life by telephoning the police
|| from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

Yes, it's a bulb test, nothing more.

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
Oily <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:42:54 +0100, Oily wrote:
>>
>>> Trailer warning lamp flashing on first blink is normal but second
>>> synchro might turn into a warranty issue but, nice one, keep on
>>> grinning!
>>
>> My view is the opposite...
>>
>> I don't see why the trailer light should flash at all when there is
>> nor trailer wiring or trailer...

101's trailer light flashed when either indicator are applied for the first
flash. It's a feature of certain relays basically.

Lee D


 
Lee_D wrote:
> Oily <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
> funny about:
>> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:42:54 +0100, Oily wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trailer warning lamp flashing on first blink is normal but second
>>>> synchro might turn into a warranty issue but, nice one, keep on
>>>> grinning!
>>>
>>> My view is the opposite...
>>>
>>> I don't see why the trailer light should flash at all when there is
>>> nor trailer wiring or trailer...
>
> 101's trailer light flashed when either indicator are applied for the first
> flash. It's a feature of certain relays basically.
>
> Lee D


Same as RRC too.

--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:54:16 +0100, Lee_D wrote:

> 101's trailer light flashed when either indicator are applied for the
> first flash. It's a feature of certain relays basically.

Well on a 101 I guess you have to cater for the dimest squadie but in
"car"? I think the trailer light flashing each time I put the indicators
on would cause me to take the bulb out... especially if there is no
trailer wiring present.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 

"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:54:16 +0100, Lee_D wrote:
>
> > 101's trailer light flashed when either indicator are applied for the
> > first flash. It's a feature of certain relays basically.
>
> Well on a 101 I guess you have to cater for the dimest squadie but in
> "car"? I think the trailer light flashing each time I put the indicators
> on would cause me to take the bulb out... especially if there is no
> trailer wiring present.
>
>
Well, as explained before, it does have a use, with or without trailer
or wiring, but if you prefer, I suppose you could remove all the warning
lamps from the dash if they bother you that much. I prefer to watch where
I'm going except for the occasional cursory glance. Oh, and there are two
'm's in dimmest, and two 'd's in squaddie. :)

Martin


 
On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 21:00:37 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:54:16 +0100, Lee_D wrote:
>
>> 101's trailer light flashed when either indicator are applied for the
>> first flash. It's a feature of certain relays basically.
>
>Well on a 101 I guess you have to cater for the dimest squadie but in
>"car"? I think the trailer light flashing each time I put the indicators
>on would cause me to take the bulb out... especially if there is no
>trailer wiring present.

you just ignore it. It's actually dead handy if it works properly when you
DO have a trailer on.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 
On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 17:39:35 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>|| On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 09:33:13 +0100, beamendsltd
>|| <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>||
>||| Yes - it's a sort of self-test do you know the bulbs ok.
>|||
>||
>|| doesn't mean the trailer blink thing actually works as it should
>|| though. ours does the self-test bit but doesn't blink when the
>|| trailer's connected, which is a fat lot of use. The one on the 110
>|| used to work as intended. --
>|| Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
>|| Blue: The sky is blue for a reason. Blue light is a source of
>|| strength and harmony in the cosmos. Create a blue light in your
>|| life by telephoning the police
>|| from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
>
>Yes, it's a bulb test, nothing more.

yeah, but the relay is supposed to flash that light when you add more load
(i.e. trailer indicator) - you normally find that it flashes when you have
the hazards on as well, for the same reason. The one on the disco doesn't.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
On Sat, 20 May 2006 01:59:32 +0100, Oily wrote:

> Well, as explained before, it does have a use, with or without
> trailer or wiring,

I can't see what use the trailer warning light has when there is no
trailer wiring and no trailer.

There is a use if you have trailer wiring *and* trailer connected to tell
you that it's lights are functioning correctly. But without a trailer
connected why do you *need* to test the bulb every time you indicate?

We aren't talking about the normal indicator repeater light remember.

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 

"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 20 May 2006 01:59:32 +0100, Oily wrote:
>
> > Well, as explained before, it does have a use, with or without
> > trailer or wiring,
>
> I can't see what use the trailer warning light has when there is no
> trailer wiring and no trailer.
>

If you decide to fit a trailer and wiring at a later date then it saves you
pulling the dash apart to fit one (a warning lamp that is), or maybe they
bought too many in, or maybe it's put there to distract your attention so
that you may find a trailer parked without lights, who knows? :)

> There is a use if you have trailer wiring *and* trailer connected to tell
> you that it's lights are functioning correctly.

Or not (functioning correctly), as the case may be.

But without a trailer
> connected why do you *need* to test the bulb every time you indicate?
>

I don't know, but there are lots of things people do when they don't *need*
to, perhaps it just makes them happy. :)

> We aren't talking about the normal indicator repeater light remember.
>

Yes, I *do* remember.

Martin


 
On or around Sat, 20 May 2006 20:05:23 +0100, "Oily"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I don't know, but there are lots of things people do when they don't *need*
>to, perhaps it just makes them happy. :)

then again, playing inside the dash of the tranny yesterday... could I
buggery find the blower speed resistor, but it's still there, or rather low
and high are still there, medium seems to be awol, along with the switch
which is melted internally (which facts may be linked). Some previous
bodger has done a fine bit of work (not) which I've partly-remedied. Of
course, I've just sent for scrap an old car which had a 0-1-2-3 switch which
would almost certainly have fitted... and I do have a 3-speed resistor to
hand. The one on the motor isn't where the HBOL says it is though.

not only that, but there are a raft of wires and multiplugs behind the dash
which don't connect to anything, empty switch holes in the dash, and some
wires and plugs inside the engine bay ditto. Provisional theory is that it
may have had aircon on it originally but it's now been removed.

upshot is I now have slow and fast on the fan, which is about all I normally
want anyway - slow for most of the time and fast for demisting.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"'Tis a mad world, my masters" John Taylor (1580-1633) Western Voyage, 1
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message :-

> then again, playing inside the dash of the tranny yesterday... could I
> buggery find the blower speed resistor, but it's still there, or rather
low
> and high are still there, medium seems to be awol, along with the switch
> which is melted internally (which facts may be linked). Some previous
> bodger has done a fine bit of work (not) which I've partly-remedied. Of
> course, I've just sent for scrap an old car which had a 0-1-2-3 switch
which
> would almost certainly have fitted... and I do have a 3-speed resistor to
> hand. The one on the motor isn't where the HBOL says it is though.
>
I don't know if this helps but I've usually found the resistors *inside*
the actual blower housing or in the inlet to it somewhere to cool it, but
I've not done much work on Transits.

> not only that, but there are a raft of wires and multiplugs behind the
dash
> which don't connect to anything, empty switch holes in the dash, and some
> wires and plugs inside the engine bay ditto. Provisional theory is that
it
> may have had aircon on it originally but it's now been removed.
>
> upshot is I now have slow and fast on the fan, which is about all I
normally
> want anyway - slow for most of the time and fast for demisting.
>
You've got everything you need then. I wouldn't worry about it :)

Martin


 

"Oily" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


> Well, as explained before, it does have a use, with or without trailer
> or wiring ....
>

On my 110, when towing my dad's 4'x3' trailer, it's the only way I know the
trailer is still attached - apart from the occasional glimpse of it in the
mirror on really tight turns!

Andy Fox
1986 110 V8

 
On or around Sun, 21 May 2006 11:54:26 +0100, "Oily"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message :-
>
>> then again, playing inside the dash of the tranny yesterday... could I
>> buggery find the blower speed resistor, but it's still there, or rather
>low
>> and high are still there, medium seems to be awol, along with the switch
>> which is melted internally (which facts may be linked). Some previous
>> bodger has done a fine bit of work (not) which I've partly-remedied. Of
>> course, I've just sent for scrap an old car which had a 0-1-2-3 switch
>which
>> would almost certainly have fitted... and I do have a 3-speed resistor to
>> hand. The one on the motor isn't where the HBOL says it is though.
>>
> I don't know if this helps but I've usually found the resistors *inside*
>the actual blower housing or in the inlet to it somewhere to cool it, but
>I've not done much work on Transits.

HBOL has a diagram of where to find it, but it's not obviously there. to
actually get the heater unit out is a half-day job as the dash has to come
out first, same as on a disco. However on the tranny the middle dash panel
comes off and allows some access to the motor and wiring. If I get hold of
a decent 0-1-2-3 switch, then I'd be inclined to replace the resistor and
just rewire the motor and new resistor to the switch.

meanwhile, I have a fog-head switch which came off a rover P6 and allows of
2 different speeds.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"If you cannot mould yourself as you would wish, how can you expect
other people to be entirely to your liking?"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xvi.
 
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