200TDi Non-start - Lots of white smoke

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Mseries3

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Right, I am confused :( The 110 has been off the road for a few weeks now and i am at a loss!

Recently in the mornings it has been smoking alot and misfiring for the first 30 seconds, only the first time you fire it up in the mornings... No real difference if it was hot or cold (Ambient Temprature), but once it had cleared it did not come back... until the next morning!

4 weeks ago, I was coming home up a hill (Not that steep!) when suddently the 110 lost power and was smoking BADLY, my mate who was following me said that there was grey, black and brown (That one confused me!) smoke along with oil coming out of the exhaust. It was also breathing heavily and running quite hot.... It also did not want to restart.

My mate in his Pugeot 306 :eek: gave me a tow towards home when i managed to bump it, and limp it home... really underpowered, not smoking much but breathing fairly badly. When I got it home, I stripped the head off but to my supprise the head gasket was fine, abit of a lip on the bores but nothing majorly wrong as far as I could see.

Stuck it back together, with a second hand turbo (Orginal one has a fair amount of play in it) and cleaned everything....

Tried to start it.... Loads and loads of white smoke out of the inlet and exhaust :confused: Really really confused at this point, check the tappets again, checked everywhere had cooper washers and everything was tight.

I had a Injection Pump to fit to it as the old one was leaking slightly, so i have fitted that with a new timing belt and checked and double checked the timing... everything is spot on BUT it still won't start!

Anyone got any ideas? :confused: Apart from 2 gallons of petrol and a box of matches

The smoke is 100% un-burnt diesel, not steam...
 
I have tried that... Infact I took the pipe off of the inlet manifold to rule the pipes out! :)
What pipe? If you ran the engine with the hose from the intercooler to the inlet removed, then you will still have the same symptoms as a blocked or split hose, as you will not have the higher volume of air from the turbo to help with combustion. But if the hoses are ok then I can only think that maybe the 2nd hand turbo you got may be faulty.
 
What pipe? If you ran the engine with the hose from the intercooler to the inlet removed, then you will still have the same symptoms as a blocked or split hose, as you will not have the higher volume of air from the turbo to help with combustion. But if the hoses are ok then I can only think that maybe the 2nd hand turbo you got may be faulty.

I have removed the top intercooler pipe. I fail to see how removing that would give you the same symptoms of a blocked or split hose, as all i am inaffect doing it running it as N/A engine. If anything it would be overfueling (I.e black smoke) as the turbo would be sending pressure to the IP, to inject more fuel than needed as i would not have the air to burn the extra fuel :)
 
thats a serious brain teaser, i would test all the compressions to make sure the head and valves are seating fine etc, if there all fine and the timing is spot on it should fire, but if its smoking ( unburt fuel) on crancking, it would be worth have the injectors spray pattern checked as if the injectors are naffed and there pretty much pouring the fuel in instead of atomising it then your gunna have problems there. hope this helps :)
 
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