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"beamendsltd" wrote ...
>
> We're *always* hearing about moving manfacturing abroad as it will
> reduce cost and how production improvements are going to significantly
> reduce overheads - but despite sacrificing our jobs prices *never*
> drop. That's why I'll never buy a Dyson - all those poor sods in
> Malmsbury who sweated bood for him.......
>
They are plastic crap anyway that won't last more than a couple of years and
they don't do a proper job anyway. Buy a Kirby (about £1,000 now if you
haggle), had one for 18 years and it still beats a Dyson hands down on
performance, and how many plastic Dysons would you have to buy in that time,
so it's also cheaper in the long run too.

--
Regards
Bob H


 
What about the front flappy vents? Looks like they have gone? I love those
on my 90.

Richard


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:38:31 GMT, "Derek"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Hmmm speculation had it ( blame me why dont you ) that Ford would raid the
>>parts bin for a suitable engine odd tho the new Transit 2.4 common rail
>>has
>>various outputs though not 120 bhp as quoted the 6 speed gearbox looks a
>>dammed fine idea that should slow down the onset of deafness in motorway
>>users.
>
> they've probably tweaked the tuning a bit. It's quite close to the top
> spec
> transit version though. I don't know if they've tweaked it for more
> torque
> lower in the rev range...
>
> Once they're available I'll have to go over to Like's and try and blag a
> test drive :)
>
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
> John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)


 
I wonder is it possible to retrofit an old and reliable engine in the new
defender, junking the dashboard while your about it and cutting out some
vents under the windscreen, now thats more like it :)


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hirsty's wrote:
>
> Don't have to have the 2007 model for that. Bloke in WA had to cut short
his
> trip and have his Defender shipped (at Landrover expense under warranty)
to
> the nearest dealer over 1000km away as no local mechanic would even look
at
> it due to all the electronics. Ruined his trip - took about two weeks to
> get the Defender plus trailer back due to problems finding a carrier that
> could take it. The problem? Faulty throttle potentiometer.
>
> Problem is already there, made worse by the lack of dealers. No wonder
> Toyota has most of the market.
> JD


 
On 2006-08-24, Bob Hobden <[email protected]> wrote:

> They are plastic crap anyway that won't last more than a couple of years and
> they don't do a proper job anyway.

Well mine's lasted for 5 years with no problems so far, mind you it's
only been used about 30 times in those 5 years ;-)

It does tend to get used to suck leaves out of car engine bays, suck
up bits of wallpaper stripping, plaster I've chipped off the walls,
the yearly invasion of crickets etc etc, it's handled it all OK so
far.

> Buy a Kirby (about £1,000 now if you haggle), had one for 18 years
> and it still beats a Dyson hands down on performance, and how many
> plastic Dysons would you have to buy in that time, so it's also
> cheaper in the long run too.

Jesus H, anyone who spends a grand on a vacuum cleaner needs urgent
help!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Larry wrote:
> I wonder is it possible to retrofit an old and reliable engine in the new
> defender, junking the dashboard while your about it and cutting out some
> vents under the windscreen, now thats more like it :)
>
>
Why not just buy a Santana?

Stuart
 
On or around Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:31:26 +0100, "Larry" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>I wonder is it possible to retrofit an old and reliable engine in the new
>defender, junking the dashboard while your about it and cutting out some
>vents under the windscreen, now thats more like it :)

I don't think we should bin the ford engine without giving it a go. I agree
with the dash, silly looking thing, and as Richard points out, lacks space
for fags, mobile phone, sandwiches, pop etc.
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On or around Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:11:56 GMT, "Richard"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>What about the front flappy vents? Looks like they have gone? I love those
>on my 90.
>
>Richard

Part of the naff dash remake, innit.

hmmm. wonder if the engine and gearbox would fit in the SIII...
--
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Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\
>> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them.
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"Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And let's not forget that Santana has gained the approval to participate
> in
> the UK MoD tenders for new vehicles.
>
> Take care
> Pantelis (not living in the UK but reading a lot about Landies)
>
>
Did you see the test in Land Rover World disco3 Rangie Sport <cough> and
110 defender in the comparison table the Santana beat the defender and as
I have posted I am seeing a lot of them about in the Lake District and
Scotland ( I get about a bit ) the big test will be whether NATO buys them
commonality is near enough essential in a battlefield scenario or you end up
having more support then frontline units.
Derek


 

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1f7d505b4e%[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > See...
>> >
>> > http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=221957
>> >
>> > the official Ford released pictures now out with more details of the
>> engine
>> > to be used.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> > Bob H
>> > 17mls W. of London.UK
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Can it be run with a hammer a spanner and a plastique to heat up a bent
>> steering rod ?
>> Bet it can't.
>> Going the way of all SUV's OK in Chelsea usless in the bush, lost its
>> way.
>>
>>
>
> Well, the engine spec looks very promising. But that dash! Apart
> from looking like a reject prop from a 30's Buck Rogers film,
> where the hell do my fags, phone etc go! And it looks *very* near
> the gear knob, and I'm still not sure my knee is going to have enough
> room. The bulge in the middle of the steering wheel is also going to be a
> pain in the bum when manouvering, using the palm of your hand. I
> can also see that the speedo is going to be difficult to see for
> a 6ft plus type person - is that curved bit really necesary?
> And I've always hated the colour coded grille and headlamp finishers.
> But the main thing is the engine, and that's Good News, and the
> crawler gear may be a good thing - as long as there's still a transfer
> box. It's a pity they couldn't provide a base version with no eletronics
> (except the Engine Management ECU which is unavoidable in the EU)
> and a nice basic dash, the fancy one is going to get trashed in a
> working vehicle.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
> RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
> Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive

I was thinking the dash looked like it could be Huggy Bears (remember
Antonio Fargas' iconic wiseguy ) music centre
Derek


 

"Ian Rawlings" wrote after
> Bob Hobden suggested:
>
>> They are plastic crap anyway that won't last more than a couple of years
>> and
>> they don't do a proper job anyway.
>
> Well mine's lasted for 5 years with no problems so far, mind you it's
> only been used about 30 times in those 5 years ;-)
>
> It does tend to get used to suck leaves out of car engine bays, suck
> up bits of wallpaper stripping, plaster I've chipped off the walls,
> the yearly invasion of crickets etc etc, it's handled it all OK so
> far.
>
>> Buy a Kirby (about £1,000 now if you haggle), had one for 18 years
>> and it still beats a Dyson hands down on performance, and how many
>> plastic Dysons would you have to buy in that time, so it's also
>> cheaper in the long run too.
>
> Jesus H, anyone who spends a grand on a vacuum cleaner needs urgent
> help!
>
Well you are lucky, my sis-in-law's first only lasted a couple of years .
Her second one didn't fair much better. Now she has a Henry.
So at £200+ each for a Dyson you don't need many failures in 18 years (and
counting) to make the metal Kirby, which includes a carpet shampoo system, a
good deal. Besides the fact it actually works and they guarantee to keep
spares available.
I've tried two Dysons owned by others and their power and efficiency are
laughable, after using a Kirby they just do not appear to work. A case of
you get what you pay for.

--
Regards
Bob


 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:53:20 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> We're *always* hearing about moving manfacturing abroad as it will
> reduce cost and how production improvements are going to significantly
> reduce overheads - but despite sacrificing our jobs prices *never*
> drop. That's why I'll never buy a Dyson - all those poor sods in
> Malmsbury who sweated bood for him.......

That and you never see a professional cleaner using one - Henry rules :)

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 

"Bob Hobden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ian Rawlings" wrote after
>> Bob Hobden suggested:
>>
>>> They are plastic crap anyway that won't last more than a couple of years
>>> and
>>> they don't do a proper job anyway.
>>
>> Well mine's lasted for 5 years with no problems so far, mind you it's
>> only been used about 30 times in those 5 years ;-)
>>
>> It does tend to get used to suck leaves out of car engine bays, suck
>> up bits of wallpaper stripping, plaster I've chipped off the walls,
>> the yearly invasion of crickets etc etc, it's handled it all OK so
>> far.
>>
>>> Buy a Kirby (about £1,000 now if you haggle), had one for 18 years
>>> and it still beats a Dyson hands down on performance, and how many
>>> plastic Dysons would you have to buy in that time, so it's also
>>> cheaper in the long run too.
>>
>> Jesus H, anyone who spends a grand on a vacuum cleaner needs urgent
>> help!
>>
> Well you are lucky, my sis-in-law's first only lasted a couple of years .
> Her second one didn't fair much better. Now she has a Henry.
> So at £200+ each for a Dyson you don't need many failures in 18 years (and
> counting) to make the metal Kirby, which includes a carpet shampoo system,
> a good deal. Besides the fact it actually works and they guarantee to keep
> spares available.
> I've tried two Dysons owned by others and their power and efficiency are
> laughable, after using a Kirby they just do not appear to work. A case of
> you get what you pay for.
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob
>
>
and bringing it nearly back on topic, kirby do a paint spraying accesory
( not that i've got one, far too exspensive)


 
Bob Hobden wrote:

> I've tried two Dysons owned by others and their power and efficiency are
> laughable, after using a Kirby they just do not appear to work. A case of
> you get what you pay for.


Very true. I borrowed a mate's Kirby and then went and bought one on
the spot (a used one admittedly so the price wasn't too painful ... £300).


--
EMB
 
In message <[email protected]>
Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2006-08-24, Bob Hobden <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > They are plastic crap anyway that won't last more than a couple of years and
> > they don't do a proper job anyway.
>
> Well mine's lasted for 5 years with no problems so far, mind you it's
> only been used about 30 times in those 5 years ;-)
>
> It does tend to get used to suck leaves out of car engine bays, suck
> up bits of wallpaper stripping, plaster I've chipped off the walls,
> the yearly invasion of crickets etc etc, it's handled it all OK so
> far.
>
> > Buy a Kirby (about £1,000 now if you haggle), had one for 18 years
> > and it still beats a Dyson hands down on performance, and how many
> > plastic Dysons would you have to buy in that time, so it's also
> > cheaper in the long run too.
>
> Jesus H, anyone who spends a grand on a vacuum cleaner needs urgent
> help!
>

We've got a Henry - just the job. If I could still get one, I'd
have a Hoover Senior - a fantstic piece of kit!

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
 
In message <[email protected]>
"Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:

> What about the front flappy vents? Looks like they have gone? I love those
> on my 90.
>
> Richard
>

Looks like they've gone, and it looks all wrong without them. Very
useful things as you say.

Richard

>
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On or around Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:38:31 GMT, "Derek"
> > <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>Hmmm speculation had it ( blame me why dont you ) that Ford would raid the
> >>parts bin for a suitable engine odd tho the new Transit 2.4 common rail
> >>has
> >>various outputs though not 120 bhp as quoted the 6 speed gearbox looks a
> >>dammed fine idea that should slow down the onset of deafness in motorway
> >>users.
> >
> > they've probably tweaked the tuning a bit. It's quite close to the top
> > spec
> > transit version though. I don't know if they've tweaked it for more
> > torque
> > lower in the rev range...
> >
> > Once they're available I'll have to go over to Like's and try and blag a
> > test drive :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> > "Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so."
> > John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)
>
>

--
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RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
 
In message <[email protected]>
Srtgray <[email protected]> wrote:

> Larry wrote:
> > I wonder is it possible to retrofit an old and reliable engine in the new
> > defender, junking the dashboard while your about it and cutting out some
> > vents under the windscreen, now thats more like it :)
> >
> >
> Why not just buy a Santana?
>

Plastic roof, for a start. Looking Denins's roof I suspect I'd
had to fork out for lot of new ones over the 10 years I've had him!

> Stuart

Richard

--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
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Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
 
On or around Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:36:56 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:53:20 +0100, beamendsltd
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> We're *always* hearing about moving manfacturing abroad as it will
>> reduce cost and how production improvements are going to significantly
>> reduce overheads - but despite sacrificing our jobs prices *never*
>> drop. That's why I'll never buy a Dyson - all those poor sods in
>> Malmsbury who sweated bood for him.......
>
>That and you never see a professional cleaner using one - Henry rules :)

I've got a George. 's bloody good, and not all that pricey. OK, it's
plastic, but well-made plastic and it does a nice job on shampooing carpets.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
On or around Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:35:04 +0200, Srtgray
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Larry wrote:
>> I wonder is it possible to retrofit an old and reliable engine in the new
>> defender, junking the dashboard while your about it and cutting out some
>> vents under the windscreen, now thats more like it :)
>>
>>
>Why not just buy a Santana?

they've got euro III electronic controls on the engine too :)

nice motor, though, and I probably would buy one if I were in the market for
a LWB wagon as the other improvements are notable too.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
On 2006-08-25, beamendsltd <[email protected]> wrote:

> We've got a Henry - just the job. If I could still get one, I'd
> have a Hoover Senior - a fantstic piece of kit!

The only reason I bought they dyson in the first place (can't believe
we're talking about vacuum cleaners in this group) was because the
model I bought had the hypo-allergenic filter thing, one entire side
of the machine is dedicated to filtering ****e out of the air. I
needed that for a while but once that was over I removed it as it kept
clogging up with brick dust and plaster.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What about the front flappy vents? Looks like they have gone? I love
>> those on my 90.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>
> Looks like they've gone, and it looks all wrong without them. Very
> useful things as you say.
>

All they've ever done, that I've noticed, in mine is to let fresh air and
water in. The new dash will hopefully let as much or more air in without the
water. I personally will not miss the water as I assume they will still let
a bit in through the doors for the benefit of the nostalgic.

Huw


 
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