2000 Range Rover County- Battery Issue

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I seem to have a strange issue with my RR. My batteries only last 2
years at most. After about a week of not driving it, there isn't enough
juice to start the RR and requires a jump. After about 2 weeks of not
using it, the battery was so dead that a jump from a smaller car was not
enough. (It seems it needs most of that 925 amps.)

I've had the battery, the electrical system for drains or shorts, and
the charging system checked several times with no issue.

The dealership said that it was apparently caused by someone's wireless
Internet router. The theory is that it's on the same frequency and it
turns the RR main computer on and continuously runs diagnostics thereby
draining the battery. Obviously I can't do anything to take care of
someone's router in the neighborhood. But if that's the case, Land
Rover should fix this issue.

At another dealership the theory was that since the RR is parked next to
the electrical junction box in our garage. The magnetic field caused
triggers relays which then drain the battery.

So, as you can see, a lot of theory. Has anyone had or heard of an
issue with the battery/ electrical system/ main computer in the 2000 RR
County. I have not added any accessory. The only thing I've changed
from the factory is I added Sylvania headlight bulbs.
 
On or around Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:42:25 GMT, PareReposte <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>So, as you can see, a lot of theory. Has anyone had or heard of an
>issue with the battery/ electrical system/ main computer in the 2000 RR
>County. I have not added any accessory. The only thing I've changed
>from the factory is I added Sylvania headlight bulbs.


There is a known issue with these vehicles - some stuff (Oregon weather
stations are a known culprit) can cause the effect you describe.

Try making a faraday cage inside the garage?
--
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"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)
 
On 2006-04-12, PareReposte <[email protected]> wrote:

> At another dealership the theory was that since the RR is parked next to
> the electrical junction box in our garage. The magnetic field caused
> triggers relays which then drain the battery.


I reckon it's battery vampires, they come in the night and suck the
essence from the battery. You can get rid of them by creating a ring
of rechargable torch batteries as an appetiser, the battery vampires
eat them whole and once inside, the rechargables drain the power from
the battery vampire, and in the morning you can put the empty vampire
corpse in the rubbish bin.

If that's not the case, rig up an ammeter in line with the battery,
and start taking fuses out to find out what's really draining the
power. Removing fuses will narrow it down to something that exists.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
In message <lOZ_f.4272$ee6.4178@trndny01>
PareReposte <[email protected]> wrote:

> I seem to have a strange issue with my RR. My batteries only last 2
> years at most. After about a week of not driving it, there isn't enough
> juice to start the RR and requires a jump. After about 2 weeks of not
> using it, the battery was so dead that a jump from a smaller car was not
> enough. (It seems it needs most of that 925 amps.)
>
> I've had the battery, the electrical system for drains or shorts, and
> the charging system checked several times with no issue.
>
> The dealership said that it was apparently caused by someone's wireless
> Internet router. The theory is that it's on the same frequency and it
> turns the RR main computer on and continuously runs diagnostics thereby
> draining the battery. Obviously I can't do anything to take care of
> someone's router in the neighborhood. But if that's the case, Land
> Rover should fix this issue.
>
> At another dealership the theory was that since the RR is parked next to
> the electrical junction box in our garage. The magnetic field caused
> triggers relays which then drain the battery.
>
> So, as you can see, a lot of theory. Has anyone had or heard of an
> issue with the battery/ electrical system/ main computer in the 2000 RR
> County. I have not added any accessory. The only thing I've changed
> from the factory is I added Sylvania headlight bulbs.


It's a well known problem (not just LR's) - buy how you solve it
is a bit tricky - short of unplugging eveyones electronic gizmo's!

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
PareReposte wrote:

> After about a week of not driving it, there isn't enough
> juice to start the RR and requires a jump.


If you can't isolate whatever it is that is keeping the vehicle awake
you only really have one course of action, to charge the battery
whenever the vehicle is not being used for >2 days. If I was in your
situation I would fit a smart battery charger and plug the vehicle in
if I knew it was going to be unused for more than a day. www.ctek.com
make chargers that fit the bill perfectly, can be permantly fitted, are
waterproof and won't cook the battery as badly as older chargers.

Regards

William MacLeod

 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> Try making a faraday cage inside the garage?


Ground the aerial for a tryout, but put a meter in series with the
switched off car and the battery. What do you actually see ?

Steve
 
PareReposte nearly made me spill my Shiraz on 12/04/2006 03:42 by writing:

> The dealership said that it was apparently caused by someone's wireless
> Internet router.


No chance. Wireless LANs are 2.4Ghz or 5.4Ghz.
> The theory is that it's on the same frequency and it
> turns the RR main computer on and continuously runs diagnostics thereby
> draining the battery. Obviously I can't do anything to take care of
> someone's router in the neighborhood. But if that's the case, Land
> Rover should fix this issue.


But they're close. Anything running on 433Mhz will cause a problem - in
my case it was an Oregon Scientific weather station. There is a revised
version of the RF receiver - about £120 to replace, IIRC, and can be
done as a DIY job.

> At another dealership the theory was that since the RR is parked next to
> the electrical junction box in our garage. The magnetic field caused
> triggers relays which then drain the battery.


Codswallop. Absolute tripe. Served in a white wine sauce with
mushrooms, shallots and garlic.

Hook an ammeter into the battery lead and watch the current draw. It
should drop down to 0.06A or lower 2 minutes after you stop doing
things, and then stay there.

When I had the problem it would reliably wake up 30 seconds after going
to sleep, with the current draw rising to around 0.5A for the next two
minutes.

Andy

 
On or around Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:00 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>It's a well known problem (not just LR's) - buy how you solve it
>is a bit tricky - short of unplugging eveyones electronic gizmo's!


like I say, park it in a faraday cage.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25
 
On 2006-04-12, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> like I say, park it in a faraday cage.


Chickenwire!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Anything running on 433Mhz will cause a problem -.........

Such as some amateur radio systems, car key fob transmitters and lots
of other short range radio stuff. Is the a repeater near you? (do a
ggogle for amateur radio 70cm repeaters and you should find a site with
maps).

Gordon

 
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-04-12, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> like I say, park it in a faraday cage.

>
> Chickenwire!
>

Not too sure that would be small for 2.4 Gig. 1/4 wave = 31mm ?

Steve
 
On 2006-04-13, Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not too sure that would be small for 2.4 Gig. 1/4 wave = 31mm ?


You can always double it up, would still probably be the cheapest
method. The weatherstations etc don't work on that frequency though,
they use something in the 400-500MHz area IIRC.

However, I doubt anyone's likely to try and solve this problem by
wrapping their truck in chickenwire ;-)

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Ian Rawlings wrote:

> However, I doubt anyone's likely to try and solve this problem by
> wrapping their truck in chickenwire ;-)

Austin.....

He's probably got the chickens.

Steve
 
On or around Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:30:46 +0100, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>> However, I doubt anyone's likely to try and solve this problem by
>> wrapping their truck in chickenwire ;-)

>Austin.....
>
>He's probably got the chickens.


actually, we haven't. Geese, yes.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Chuck didn't reply, so George swung round in his saddle. He could just
see Chuck's face, a white oval turned toward the sky.
'Look,' whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven.
(There is always a last time for everything.)
Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out"
Arthur C. Clarke, "The 9 billion names of God"
 
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:08:02 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On or around Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:30:46 +0100, Steve Taylor
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Ian Rawlings wrote:
>>
>>> However, I doubt anyone's likely to try and solve this problem by
>>> wrapping their truck in chickenwire ;-)

>>Austin.....
>>
>>He's probably got the chickens.

>
>actually, we haven't. Geese, yes.


and they make excellent guard dogs too do geese.
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body shell, being bobbed and modded.....
 
Beware of geese! We had them roaming in the yard once, and I didn't
have to mow the lawn all summer. But when the grass stopped growing,
they started eating the Series 1!

You wouldn't think that that flat beak could do any damage, but when we
next needed the fog lights they wouldn't work -- they'd chewed the
insulation off the cables, and got half way through the conductor wires
too. Delicious at Christmas, though -- much tastier than the average
guard dog.

Meanwhile, back at the fascinating
'don't-park-your-RR-under-a-phone-pole' topic.........

GRAEME ALDOUS, Yorkshire

 
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