2.5 DHSE Oil Filter ?

On the p38 2.5 DHSE is there 2 types of oil filter, I only ask as i sent for one and it is two big but they are insistent it is the right one. It is the cartridge type of filter.
Also is it normal for the engine to use half a ltr of oil say every 3K miles as i can see no leaks

Think it depends on whether you have a plastic or ally top to the filter housing which oil filter you need Oil consumption doesn't seem excessive, does it smoke?

Hi tomcat59alan
I have the plastic to and housing , no smoke from the engine unless you give it a real hard quick boot then i get a bit of black smoke but it very soon clears

Colin1 said:

Hi tomcat59alan
I have the plastic to and housing , no smoke from the engine unless you give it a real hard quick boot then i get a bit of black smoke but it very soon clears

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Black smoke is not oil, it's on the injection side. Sounds like they are trying to give you the ally top oil filter. Measure the old one, very messy, just changed mine and thrown the old box away otherwise I could have given you the part number for comparison.

tomcat59alan said:

Black smoke is not oil, it's on the injection side. Sounds like they are trying to give you the ally top oil filter. Measure the old one, very messy, just changed mine and thrown the old box away otherwise I could have given you the part number for comparison.

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Early filter bolt on top is STC2180. Later filter plastic screw on top is STC3350.

Thanks , no problem I will try my usual shop may get more sense . must have been lucky with the first filter as i got the right one first time dint know there was an ally top as well but i do now
Thanks for your help.

Colin1 said:

Thanks , no problem I will try my usual shop may get more sense . must have been lucky with the first filter as i got the right one first time dint know there was an ally top as well but i do now
Thanks for your help.

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No prob, I knew wammers would give you the part numbers, he just needs a little prodding now and again. Oh God what have I said, stand by for the double entendres

You may reduce consumption slightly by removing cam cover and cleaning out the oil separator gauze. If it's EGR the internal vent valve or if not EGR the external vent valve. Otherwise to much oil may find it's way into the intercooler and turbo system. If you have a lot in there best to remove intercooler and flush it out, can give the engine a tiny boost.

Thanks Wammers. The box say STC2180r so they did send the wrong one or i ordered the wrong one which is more likely

Colin1 said:

Thanks Wammers. The box say STC2180r so they did send the wrong one or i ordered the wrong one which is more likely

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Ordering the wrong parts can make fitting them extraordinarily difficult in my experience. Some seem to manage it though.

It has got a EGR we did remove it to give it a good clean as it was full of black s**t , would that round valve type thing in there be the internal vent valve you speak of . Will try and remove intercooler and flush it out . What about blanking the egr of with a penny will that make any difference or would it be a waste of time

wammers said:

Ordering the wrong parts can make fitting them extraordinarily difficult in my experience. Some seem to manage it though.

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Well at least the filter is too big and he could have squashed it in.

tomcat59alan said:

Well at least the filter is too big and he could have squashed it in.

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Bodgers beware.

wammers said:

Bodgers beware.

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wasn't telling him to, just saying that he could have

Colin1 said:

It has got a EGR we did remove it to give it a good clean as it was full of black s**t , would that round valve type thing in there be the internal vent valve you speak of . Will try and remove intercooler and flush it out . What about blanking the egr of with a penny will that make any difference or would it be a waste of time

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No the PCV (vent valve) is inside the cam cover. Wash with paraffin only and a gently blow off with an air line. NO solvents. You can use what you want on separator gauze and intercooler. Paraffin then Acetone is good for intercooler. But NO Acetone on plastic parts.

Thanks Wammers

" Well at least the filter is too big and he could have squashed it in. "

No Got new correct filter today ready for weekend .

Many thanks all

Colin1 said:

It has got a EGR we did remove it to give it a good clean as it was full of black s**t , would that round valve type thing in there be the internal vent valve you speak of . Will try and remove intercooler and flush it out . What about blanking the egr of with a penny will that make any difference or would it be a waste of time

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No need to block the EGR, just remove the rubber pipe from the actuator and it will stay shut. Block the rubber pipe with an M5 screw.

Many thanks Data, Will give it a go see what happens , probably not a lot but thanks

Colin1 said:

Many thanks Data, Will give it a go see what happens , probably not a lot but thanks

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It's easier than trying to block it. You will not notice much difference, but it will stop the inlet manifold and engine filling with crap.

Data , have you done it to yours