Hi all, I think my turbo may be in it's way out, does anyone have a good 19j turbo they will part for for a few beer tokens? (or coke tokens if your driving) It needs to be from a late 1988 engine onwards. There was two turbos for the 19j engine (pre head strenghthening) then in late 1988 the head was strenghthend to prevent the turbo from cracking the head. So Like I said before, the one i need is from a late 1988 vehicle onwards, I've been looking on eBay for the last few weeks and theres been none on. Thanks if anyone can help.
19j turbo required
- Thread starter D.G.F.S.
- Start date
This site contains affiliate links for which LandyZone may be compensated if you make a purchase.
Just an update, I think my engine may actually be post strengthening because the engine number falls before 19J27515C which according to this website Land Rover, Range Rover engine history - by Glencoyne 4x4 (Thetford) is when the strengthend engines were introduced my engine number is: 19J26461C so if anyone has one of these turbos for sale let me know. Thanks
By post I actually mean pre
plenty of ppl on here will have the later 19j with turbo under a tarp in their garden which im sure they will let you have for next to nothing. your pre strengthened engine is rubbish and will blow and cause you much inconvenience.
or you could just chuck it n get a 200tdi
At the moment the engine is perfect.....at the moment, a bit of breathing out of the filler cap. It starts after 3-5 seconds of heat when cold and fires before a full revoloution, a little puff of smoke on start up and acceleration but dosent miss a beat. But over the past 6 months one minute the turbo makes a nice whistle and when I put my foot down it picked up well, then the next it goes quiet, no excessive smoke and no split pipes but the fuel consumption has gone up a fair bit.
well mate its up to you how long you wanna drive with that time bomb in yer landy but as yer looking forra turbo i would strongly recommend putting a late TD in. Its less of a time bomb mine still going strong (ish). That said, you convinced its ur turbo? they whistle as the blast air so lack of whistle might be air filter?
To be honest I thought that so I had it out a while back and cleaned it well and re-oiled it (k&n) but no difference. The pipe from the compressor to inlet manifold when squose shut then the engine throttled won't go hard enough to push my hand open. There is no noise whatsoever from the turbo, it's more like driving a n/a at the moment!
sypher
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 1,997
- Location
- Forest of dean
They wont boost much on free rev , so trying to squeeze the hose and hoping it will inflate is not a good test to see if the turbos boosting .
If the turbo spins freely and its not worn ( eg , lots of side play and lataral movement - you should have a small amout of side play but not so much that the compressor touches the housing ) .
Id be looking at the waste gate as it might not be seating correctly so allowing exhaust gasses to pass through the gate insted of the turbine .
But having said all that the only real test you can do is with a boost guage and pipe it up ( cheap enough of ebay ) , at least you'll know for sure what its doing .
If the turbo spins freely and its not worn ( eg , lots of side play and lataral movement - you should have a small amout of side play but not so much that the compressor touches the housing ) .
Id be looking at the waste gate as it might not be seating correctly so allowing exhaust gasses to pass through the gate insted of the turbine .
But having said all that the only real test you can do is with a boost guage and pipe it up ( cheap enough of ebay ) , at least you'll know for sure what its doing .
Cheers sypher, there's hardly any movement in the shaft, just a little up and down. I have been asking around for a boost gauge but it looks like I'm going to have to buy one. Someone (a mechanic) has also suggested that my cam my be breaking up in the ip because I have a miss fire around half revvs.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
- Posts
- 47,185
- Location
- in Baron Wet Bum's Slave pit..
That sounds more like a dirty filter or sedimentor!! Think you need to find a new mechanic...
Luckily enough he's not actually my mechanic, I try to do most things myself, I just asked if he had a boost gauge and explained what the problem was. Last weekend I changed the fuel filter anyway. I noticed some oil seeping around the side of each injector so I had them all out and each bore was really oily and the bottom washer diddnt loook right so I'm going to replace them anyway, if I'm not mistaken the oil is most likely from the rocker cover gasket?
sypher
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 1,997
- Location
- Forest of dean
Thats more than likely mate ( at least your injectors wont be siezed in there
) . Your best bet is to fork out £15 for for a guage from Ebay , it dont have to be an expencive one cos your only looking at 9 PSI max anyway any more and you can say bye bye to your motor ( after a little while anyway ) . Just another thought , your waste gate actuator isnt partialy siezed is it ?? , coz that'll give u the same non boost symptoms .
There hard to move just by hand mind ... get some mole grips on the rod close to the actuator and 2 screwdrivers , then try and pry the rod out ( towards the bulk head ) , work it a few times and see if it returns back to where you started .
another thing you can do while your there is mark the gate arm to a reference point , remove the rod curclip ( ffs dont let it spring off and loose it ) . Remove the rod and see if the gate arm travels back further than the rest point when the arm was attatched .
If not theres you prob .
Soz thats long winded
Thanks sypher, Im going to go out in a bit and av a look and try what you have suggested, it ****es me off a bit really because whenever I ask a mechanic who should know what they are talking about just say stick a 200tdi in it (and don't bother giving any advice) which I will do eventually but at the moment I really carnt afford one. The miss fire I mentioned before, apart from the fuel filter what else might be the cause, fuel consumption has gradually increased over the last 8 or so months (more so since I fitted some insa turbo special tracks in winter 235/85/16) which I expected, but when I changed to 245/75/16 bfg at's it hasn't changed back as I thought it would. £20 gets me 50-55 miles. Ouch.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
- Posts
- 47,185
- Location
- in Baron Wet Bum's Slave pit..
Worn rings springs to mind though 245/75/ is only 1.2" smaller then 235/85.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
- Posts
- 47,185
- Location
- in Baron Wet Bum's Slave pit..
That works out at about 15mpg which depending on ya driving style is possible 20 to 25 is average.
There is a bit of puff from the rocker cover cap not a fog but noticable, I also removed the dipstick and kept my finger on the dipstick tube for a few seconds and there was next to no preassure there though, but would suggest worn rings. And that could explain it then with regards to the tyre size, I thought they were much smaller then that (but I'm a bit turd with tyre sizes!)
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
- Posts
- 47,185
- Location
- in Baron Wet Bum's Slave pit..
Try placing ya hand over filler cap hole and see what happens.
Tyres are sized by width x % = wall height so 235/85 =A WALL HEIGHT of 85% OF 235mm & 245/75 = 75% of 245mm
Thanks redhand, I will copy that as a guide. Maths ain't my strong point along with tyre sizes! I have tried all things suggested above, the wastgate operates freeley as it should and closes fully when actuator rod is attached. The dump valve operates freeley. (obviously with resistance) I placed my finger over the rocker cap and there is a slight build up of preassure (nothing significant) and a small puff of a oily vapour once released. Just a thought but, I replaced my boost diaphragm a few months ago and I was told to ensure the needle on the diaphragm matched the length of the old one. If I hadn't got it spot on, could this potentially cause some of the issues I'm having. The reason why I ask is because when checking the pipes connected around the turbo, I blew down the boost pipe with the engine idleing, there was a noise from the pump but I assumed that when I blew down the pipe I was actuating the diaphragm and thus increacing fuel into the engine which in theory would cause black smoke. (which it didnt, assuming my theory is correct and just not a waste of finger movement typing this )
)
