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Lee_D
Guest
Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
Just wondering incase mines gone awol
Lee
Just wondering incase mines gone awol
Lee
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Mother
Guest
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:08:57 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
of art.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
of art.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
L
Lee_D
Guest
"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:08:57 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
>
> At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
> agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
> of art.
Super Ta!
Lee
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:08:57 -0000, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
>
> At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
> agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
> of art.
Super Ta!
Lee
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Simon Isaacs
Guest
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:27 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:
>On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:08:57 -0000, "Lee_D"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
>
>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>of art.
did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
scribbled the following nonsense:
>On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:08:57 -0000, "Lee_D"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Has Six stud come out yet? I recall there is normally one around Chrimbo?
>>Just wondering incase mines gone awol
>
>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>of art.
did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
M
Mother
Guest
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>>of art.
>
>did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
Arrived yesterday morning - give her a huge thumbs-up
One thing I've always not really liked about the GLASS newsletter, and
this is nothing at all to do with whoever edits it, is the quality of
the b/w photographs on printed page.
This current issue is no exception - some superb pics, especially from
NGLD but not best 'printed' - just my opinion (I know very little
about photographic reproduction on modern printed pages, I've just
vague memories of using a dot filter when printing photographs in the
darkroom for the union newsletter - and that was 25+ years ago!).
As I say, nothing at all to do with layout or editing and I have a
great deal of sincere respect for anyone taking on the thankless job
of magazine editor for any club - Dawn has done well, and I hope she
is recognised for the effort that wen't into it.
Now... Photographs of committee members???
Hmm... that'd better never catch on in our club mag or I'm orf!
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
wrote:
>>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>>of art.
>
>did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
Arrived yesterday morning - give her a huge thumbs-up
One thing I've always not really liked about the GLASS newsletter, and
this is nothing at all to do with whoever edits it, is the quality of
the b/w photographs on printed page.
This current issue is no exception - some superb pics, especially from
NGLD but not best 'printed' - just my opinion (I know very little
about photographic reproduction on modern printed pages, I've just
vague memories of using a dot filter when printing photographs in the
darkroom for the union newsletter - and that was 25+ years ago!).
As I say, nothing at all to do with layout or editing and I have a
great deal of sincere respect for anyone taking on the thankless job
of magazine editor for any club - Dawn has done well, and I hope she
is recognised for the effort that wen't into it.
Now... Photographs of committee members???
Hmm... that'd better never catch on in our club mag or I'm orf!
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
T
Tom Woods
Guest
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:42:25 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:
>Now... Photographs of committee members???
>Hmm... that'd better never catch on in our club mag or I'm orf!
as would be a lot of the club members!
wrote:
>Now... Photographs of committee members???
>Hmm... that'd better never catch on in our club mag or I'm orf!
as would be a lot of the club members!
S
Simon Isaacs
Guest
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:42:25 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:
>On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>>>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>>>of art.
>>
>>did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
>
>Arrived yesterday morning - give her a huge thumbs-up
>
>One thing I've always not really liked about the GLASS newsletter, and
>this is nothing at all to do with whoever edits it, is the quality of
>the b/w photographs on printed page.
>
cant work it out either for the photos, as they look ok on the screen,
and when we proof print it home on my Samsung Laserjet they look
okay... The printing company are looking at it!
A word of warning for all budding editors out there.... *do not* use
MS Publisher, it causes more aggro than it is worth.... OK for home
printed stuff, but useless for commercial printing. Then again, it is
MS software, which tends to make it useless at anything....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
scribbled the following nonsense:
>On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>>>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>>>of art.
>>
>>did you get your GLASS mag Martyn? SWMBO wants some feedback....
>
>Arrived yesterday morning - give her a huge thumbs-up
>
>One thing I've always not really liked about the GLASS newsletter, and
>this is nothing at all to do with whoever edits it, is the quality of
>the b/w photographs on printed page.
>
cant work it out either for the photos, as they look ok on the screen,
and when we proof print it home on my Samsung Laserjet they look
okay... The printing company are looking at it!
A word of warning for all budding editors out there.... *do not* use
MS Publisher, it causes more aggro than it is worth.... OK for home
printed stuff, but useless for commercial printing. Then again, it is
MS software, which tends to make it useless at anything....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>cant work it out either for the photos, as they look ok on the screen,
>and when we proof print it home on my Samsung Laserjet they look
>okay... The printing company are looking at it!
I've found you can get silly answers with different screening fighting
eachother: scan a screenprinted photo at e.g. 300 dpi and it comes out with
patterns on it, scan the same photo, without having moved it on the scanner,
at e.g. 313 dpi and it has different patterns. A certain amount of faffing
around can usually get a result with acceptable level of pattern on it,
sometimes in conjunction with post-processing to remove the patterns.
examples:
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_1.jpg
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_2.jpg
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_3.jpg
some of which still show slight patterns.
'course, if it's direct import photos and not scans, I dunno. Worth noting
that glossy magazines work at 1200dpi at least, now - so a 6x4 picture, say,
is going to be 7200x4800 pixels, which is much more than yer average camera
does and more in fact than any digital camera. A decent scanner now may
scan at 1200dpi real resolution, but anything less decent will be
interpolating anyway.
There are other aspects when printing in monochrome - like where in the
process it's converted to a greyscale image. I tend to reckon on supplying
a colour image for the printer to convert, but you have to get it right -
too contrasty an image can get even more contrasty when converted -
sometimes, it's worth deliberately lowering the contrast in the colour
original. Then there's always the chance that someone accidentally save is
as the wrong file type and doesn't notice... there's a fax format which
looks at first glance to be a tiff file, for example, but renders literal
black-and-white images.
>A word of warning for all budding editors out there.... *do not* use
>MS Publisher, it causes more aggro than it is worth.... OK for home
>printed stuff, but useless for commercial printing. Then again, it is
>MS software, which tends to make it useless at anything....
bleck. I tried using it once, ages ago. DTP of choice here for many years
is pagemaker, currently version 6.5 which is not exactly current, but that's
'cos I can't afford the latest version. Mac types tend to swear by
QuarkExpress, ISTR. Pagemaker does everything I want it to and can do such
things as producing 4 separate images for 4-colour process printing and the
like. Main problem is compatibility, as ever. I tend to produce oversize
originals (for adverts and the like) which they can scan and reduce to
maintain the quality. The other possibility is to print to a postscript
file or convert to PDF - all depends on what your printer (the person, not
the machine) can most effectively deal with.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>cant work it out either for the photos, as they look ok on the screen,
>and when we proof print it home on my Samsung Laserjet they look
>okay... The printing company are looking at it!
I've found you can get silly answers with different screening fighting
eachother: scan a screenprinted photo at e.g. 300 dpi and it comes out with
patterns on it, scan the same photo, without having moved it on the scanner,
at e.g. 313 dpi and it has different patterns. A certain amount of faffing
around can usually get a result with acceptable level of pattern on it,
sometimes in conjunction with post-processing to remove the patterns.
examples:
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_1.jpg
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_2.jpg
http://www.roman-road.co.uk/austin/1000hp/1000hp_3.jpg
some of which still show slight patterns.
'course, if it's direct import photos and not scans, I dunno. Worth noting
that glossy magazines work at 1200dpi at least, now - so a 6x4 picture, say,
is going to be 7200x4800 pixels, which is much more than yer average camera
does and more in fact than any digital camera. A decent scanner now may
scan at 1200dpi real resolution, but anything less decent will be
interpolating anyway.
There are other aspects when printing in monochrome - like where in the
process it's converted to a greyscale image. I tend to reckon on supplying
a colour image for the printer to convert, but you have to get it right -
too contrasty an image can get even more contrasty when converted -
sometimes, it's worth deliberately lowering the contrast in the colour
original. Then there's always the chance that someone accidentally save is
as the wrong file type and doesn't notice... there's a fax format which
looks at first glance to be a tiff file, for example, but renders literal
black-and-white images.
>A word of warning for all budding editors out there.... *do not* use
>MS Publisher, it causes more aggro than it is worth.... OK for home
>printed stuff, but useless for commercial printing. Then again, it is
>MS software, which tends to make it useless at anything....
bleck. I tried using it once, ages ago. DTP of choice here for many years
is pagemaker, currently version 6.5 which is not exactly current, but that's
'cos I can't afford the latest version. Mac types tend to swear by
QuarkExpress, ISTR. Pagemaker does everything I want it to and can do such
things as producing 4 separate images for 4-colour process printing and the
like. Main problem is compatibility, as ever. I tend to produce oversize
originals (for adverts and the like) which they can scan and reduce to
maintain the quality. The other possibility is to print to a postscript
file or convert to PDF - all depends on what your printer (the person, not
the machine) can most effectively deal with.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
I
Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-01-09, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've found you can get silly answers with different screening fighting
> eachother: scan a screenprinted photo at e.g. 300 dpi and it comes out with
> patterns on it, scan the same photo, without having moved it on the scanner,
> at e.g. 313 dpi and it has different patterns.
This is "moire patterning", a common problem. Some photo manipulation
packages have processing tools to get rid of it, but I tend to just
avoid scanning in halftone images (e.g. newspaper photos) as they're
the worst.
> There are other aspects when printing in monochrome - like where in the
> process it's converted to a greyscale image. I tend to reckon on supplying
> a colour image for the printer to convert, but you have to get it right -
> too contrasty an image can get even more contrasty when converted -
> sometimes, it's worth deliberately lowering the contrast in the colour
> original.
Best bet is just to convert to greyscale yourself, it's hard to judge
how much contrast will be in an image when the colour is removed, ask
any photographer who's done B/W arty work. The problem comes from the
way the RGB channels combine, if your package allows it you can get
the best results by combining the luminence data from the three
channels in differing amounts, as well as the obvious way of
manipulating the levels curve. The three channels method can bring
out some areas of the image more than others.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
> I've found you can get silly answers with different screening fighting
> eachother: scan a screenprinted photo at e.g. 300 dpi and it comes out with
> patterns on it, scan the same photo, without having moved it on the scanner,
> at e.g. 313 dpi and it has different patterns.
This is "moire patterning", a common problem. Some photo manipulation
packages have processing tools to get rid of it, but I tend to just
avoid scanning in halftone images (e.g. newspaper photos) as they're
the worst.
> There are other aspects when printing in monochrome - like where in the
> process it's converted to a greyscale image. I tend to reckon on supplying
> a colour image for the printer to convert, but you have to get it right -
> too contrasty an image can get even more contrasty when converted -
> sometimes, it's worth deliberately lowering the contrast in the colour
> original.
Best bet is just to convert to greyscale yourself, it's hard to judge
how much contrast will be in an image when the colour is removed, ask
any photographer who's done B/W arty work. The problem comes from the
way the RGB channels combine, if your package allows it you can get
the best results by combining the luminence data from the three
channels in differing amounts, as well as the obvious way of
manipulating the levels curve. The three channels method can bring
out some areas of the image more than others.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
A
Austin Shackles
Guest
On or around Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:12:59 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Best bet is just to convert to greyscale yourself, it's hard to judge
>how much contrast will be in an image when the colour is removed, ask
>any photographer who's done B/W arty work.
indeed. however, I've had silly result from supplying printed originals for
scanning. In the end I supplied a colour original and it worked better.
>The problem comes from the way the RGB channels combine,
and the fact that different software does it differently, of course.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>Best bet is just to convert to greyscale yourself, it's hard to judge
>how much contrast will be in an image when the colour is removed, ask
>any photographer who's done B/W arty work.
indeed. however, I've had silly result from supplying printed originals for
scanning. In the end I supplied a colour original and it worked better.
>The problem comes from the way the RGB channels combine,
and the fact that different software does it differently, of course.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
I
Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-01-10, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On or around Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:12:59 +0000, Ian Rawlings
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>The problem comes from the way the RGB channels combine,
>
> and the fact that different software does it differently, of course.
It's not so much the software, but light itself, photographers who
work in monochrome have the same problem in that two colours that are
easily distinguishable resolve to almost the same shade of grey. A
trick I used to use when photographing monochrome shots was to hold up
red, green and blue filters in turn (holding them all up together
results in no light getting through!) to assess the contrasting areas
of the image from the individual colours, and sometimes I'd take the
picture through the filter if it worked better in one colour than the
other. The film stock was of course monochrome so the colours never
made it to the final image.
There are filters you can get that claim to remove colour from images
when you look through them although I doubt they are that effective as
I'm not sure how such a thing would work and have never seen them.
However with a computer you can remove the colour from an image,
extend the levels of the monochrome image and then tune it in the
software to the output curves of the printers that are used. You
could even add solid black and solid white squares outside of the
cropped image once you've got the levels right so that the print shop
would know exactly what you wanted, although I've never worked in a
print shop so have no idea if they can justify tailoring individual
images at the relevant price point.
I'm told though that PDF these days is the best format to give to a
print shop for complete pages.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
> On or around Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:12:59 +0000, Ian Rawlings
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>The problem comes from the way the RGB channels combine,
>
> and the fact that different software does it differently, of course.
It's not so much the software, but light itself, photographers who
work in monochrome have the same problem in that two colours that are
easily distinguishable resolve to almost the same shade of grey. A
trick I used to use when photographing monochrome shots was to hold up
red, green and blue filters in turn (holding them all up together
results in no light getting through!) to assess the contrasting areas
of the image from the individual colours, and sometimes I'd take the
picture through the filter if it worked better in one colour than the
other. The film stock was of course monochrome so the colours never
made it to the final image.
There are filters you can get that claim to remove colour from images
when you look through them although I doubt they are that effective as
I'm not sure how such a thing would work and have never seen them.
However with a computer you can remove the colour from an image,
extend the levels of the monochrome image and then tune it in the
software to the output curves of the printers that are used. You
could even add solid black and solid white squares outside of the
cropped image once you've got the levels right so that the print shop
would know exactly what you wanted, although I've never worked in a
print shop so have no idea if they can justify tailoring individual
images at the relevant price point.
I'm told though that PDF these days is the best format to give to a
print shop for complete pages.
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
M
Mother
Guest
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:29:42 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm told though that PDF these days is the best format to give to a
>print shop for complete pages.
This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
to the printer.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm told though that PDF these days is the best format to give to a
>print shop for complete pages.
This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
to the printer.
--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
I
Ian Rawlings
Guest
On 2006-01-10, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
> This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
> to the printer.
Heh, you are a geek after all, even I stopped using LaTeX about a year
ago for anything other than personal letters, I've used it since 2001
for producing customer reports and since 1993 or so for most things,
have now moved to Open Office but intend to produce them using Java
over the next year or so.
Probably Java outputting SGML mind ;-)
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
> This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
> to the printer.
Heh, you are a geek after all, even I stopped using LaTeX about a year
ago for anything other than personal letters, I've used it since 2001
for producing customer reports and since 1993 or so for most things,
have now moved to Open Office but intend to produce them using Java
over the next year or so.
Probably Java outputting SGML mind ;-)
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
S
Simon Isaacs
Guest
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:48:38 +0000, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>On 2006-01-10, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>
>> This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
>> to the printer.
>
>Heh, you are a geek after all, even I stopped using LaTeX about a year
>ago for anything other than personal letters, I've used it since 2001
>for producing customer reports and since 1993 or so for most things,
>have now moved to Open Office but intend to produce them using Java
>over the next year or so.
>
>Probably Java outputting SGML mind ;-)
we used pdf to get it to the printers, but MS managed to shaft that
too.... Now have a copy of Adobe InDesign, which is meant to be the
dogs dangly bits, after Quark, so we'll see how she gets on....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>On 2006-01-10, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>
>> This is how our club mag is produced. LaTeX output to .pdf then ftp'd
>> to the printer.
>
>Heh, you are a geek after all, even I stopped using LaTeX about a year
>ago for anything other than personal letters, I've used it since 2001
>for producing customer reports and since 1993 or so for most things,
>have now moved to Open Office but intend to produce them using Java
>over the next year or so.
>
>Probably Java outputting SGML mind ;-)
we used pdf to get it to the printers, but MS managed to shaft that
too.... Now have a copy of Adobe InDesign, which is meant to be the
dogs dangly bits, after Quark, so we'll see how she gets on....
--
Simon Isaacs
Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
T
Tom Woods
Guest
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:27 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:
>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>of art.
I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
wrote:
>At the printers, will be in the post early next week. I think you'll
>agree that the wait is worth it - I've got a proof here, quite a work
>of art.
I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
T
Tom Woods
Guest
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:27:00 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
>though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
and congratulations to the cover star!
wrote:
>I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
>though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
and congratulations to the cover star!
L
Lee_D
Guest
Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:27:00 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
>> though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
>
> and congratulations to the cover star!
Blimmey! Wait till I show him he'll be chuffed to bits.... then again best
not show him.. enough bits already!
I'm humbled, last version he got half the centre fold. This issue front
cover, where does it all stop
He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
Lee
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:27:00 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've not read it yet but i'm impressed by the fancy new packaging! -
>> though it almost got filed with the junk mail until i turned it over!
>
> and congratulations to the cover star!
Blimmey! Wait till I show him he'll be chuffed to bits.... then again best
not show him.. enough bits already!
I'm humbled, last version he got half the centre fold. This issue front
cover, where does it all stop
He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
Lee
T
Tom Woods
Guest
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:21:48 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm humbled, last version he got half the centre fold. This issue front
>cover, where does it all stop
>
>He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm humbled, last version he got half the centre fold. This issue front
>cover, where does it all stop
>
>He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
M
Mother
Guest
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:11:15 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
>
>I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
I remember him as a GS...
wrote:
>>He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
>
>I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
I remember him as a GS...
L
Lee_D
Guest
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:11:15 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
>>
>> I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
>
> I remember him as a GS...
I'd have been 4, I guess Tom would have been just a twinkle in Mr and Mrs
Woods eyes.
Lee
worrerz funny about:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:11:15 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> He'll be giving signatures (oil stains) at the next meet ;-)
>>
>> I knew him before he was famous! ;-)
>
> I remember him as a GS...
I'd have been 4, I guess Tom would have been just a twinkle in Mr and Mrs
Woods eyes.
Lee
