Defender TD5_Gear Shift 1st-2d

[Julien_Paris]

Hi All,

At what speed do you up-shift first to second ? If I exceed 15 km/h, the gearbox doesn't let me go into 2d gear.

Defender 90 TD5/ R380 Gearbox / Fresh MTF94

Many thanks for your feedbacks/experience.

 

[Anaconda]

Almost straight away.

 

[Julien_Paris]

Almost straight away.

Hello Anaconda. What do you mean ? Thx

 

[Anaconda]

Hello Anaconda. What do you mean ? Thx

I set off in 1st gear and straight away I change into 2nd gear. I don't know what speed it is, barely much faster than walking speed. Basically I have found 1st gear is only for setting off after coming to a stand still

 

[Julien_Paris]

I set off in 1st gear and straight away I change into 2nd gear. I don't know what speed it is, barely much faster than walking speed. Basically I have found 1st gear is only for setting off after coming to a stand still

Thanks for your speedy reply Anaconda.
If you don’t change straight away to 2d, and rev high and keep it in1st, does it let you go smoothly into 2d gear, or you have to wait ?

 

[Anaconda]

Thanks for your speedy reply Anaconda.
If you don’t change straight away to 2d, and rev high and keep it in1st, does it let you go smoothly into 2d gear, or you have to wait ?

I have never really tried it to be honest.
The gearbox isn't happy if I try to change quickly into 2nd when it's cold, you need to make a steady gear change. If that makes sense .
I use atf oil in the gearbox.

 

[Chalky.]

If you do the gear change nice and slow it allows the synchros, which may be slightly worn, to disengage and engage.

You cannot do quick snatch gear changes on any older landrover gearbox.

And change from first to second almost as soon as the wheels are rolling. You can also double de-clutch to engage easier.

 

[Julien_Paris]

If you do the gear change nice and slow it allows the synchros, which may be slightly worn, to disengage and engage.

You cannot do quick snatch gear changes on any older landrover gearbox.

And change from first to second almost as soon as the wheels are rolling. You can also double de-clutch to engage easier.

Bonjour Chalky
Thanks for the speedy reply. Is this a normal behavior for an R380 gearbox ? Is it like this from new ? Don’t know if you had the opportunity to drive a new one….
Thanks in advance for your feedback

 

[Anaconda]

If you do the gear change nice and slow it allows the synchros, which may be slightly worn, to disengage and engage.

You cannot do quick snatch gear changes on any older landrover gearbox.

And change from first to second almost as soon as the wheels are rolling. You can also double de-clutch to engage easier.

Mine shouldn't be worn as it was a recon box the previous owner had fitted. Then it all depends on well the recon was done I guess..

 

[Chalky.]

Bonjour Chalky
Thanks for the speedy reply. Is this a normal behavior for an R380 gearbox ? Is it like this from new ? Don’t know if you had the opportunity to drive a new one….
Thanks in advance for your feedback

Synchros wear with use and age, but the boxes are always been of a design where a slower gear change than your normal car is required.

 

[Chalky.]

It's just the way the synchro design is, with wear it's exacerbated, and really high mileage i think double de clutching works wonders. I do it on mine sometimes, even though it's not required, because it snicks in so much more nicely. I also use atf in mine as recommended by Dave Ashcroft.

 

[Julien_Paris]

Mine shouldn't be worn as it was a recon box the previous owner had fitted. Then it all depends on well the recon was done I guess..

Thanks Anaconda. So even on a recon gearbox (means not worn), this 1st to 2d up-shift behavior is normal ?