L322 pulling my hair out! (Not much left)

[Crankington]

Hello all, it’s a big day… please see the video attached, a friend of mine, a Land Rover fanatic came along, with the car having sat for so long he said, ok, first things first, let’s drain the fuel and get some fresh stuff in there… so , we did (I didn’t suspect it would help but) …. After a few tries starting , no joy, then one more for luck and BAM! Ticked over like a beauty… starts on the button now, even drove it around the block … so so happy, I don’t know if that was the initial thing, or one of the things added up with the bits and pieces I fixed like the grounding wires etc,, anyway. Next up, got to sort out the suspension, the back lifted itself very very slowly after starting; the front however did not, so the list continues… but regardless, it runs!!! Thanks for all the advice along the way

By the way, couldn’t seem to attach a video lol

 

[kermit_rr]

By the way, couldn’t seem to attach a video lol

upload to youtube then post the link

 

[Crankington]

Here’s. Link to the vid

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

 

[Blob]

Suspension will be the easy bit. Don't know why but I really like resolving suspension issues on these things...? Probably because so many people are so terrified of it and in reality, it's just not that bad at all.

I wish I had the time to "pop down" and give you a hand as you're in such a beautiful part of the world. I'd have to bring my bike as well.

 

[Crankington]

Suspension will be the easy bit. Don't know why but I really like resolving suspension issues on these things...? Probably because so many people are so terrified of it and in reality, it's just not that bad at all.

I wish I had the time to "pop down" and give you a hand as you're in such a beautiful part of the world. I'd have to bring my bike as well.

Haha that would be fantastic! Well I’ve ordered a new Diag which comes Monday then I’ll start tackling these bits and bobs in the hopes to get it back on the road … I’m glad it’s not that bad regarding suspension haha… let’s see

 

[Blob]

Which diag have you ordered? For your suspension you're going to need to see that it is building pressure and that you're getting increased readings. I would imagine that you have a split air spring on the front and that the compressor is weak. The rear should lift first and then the front (designed that way to not dazzle people with headlights when raising). They can suffer leaks from the air tank too BUT from my understanding, the compressor will lift the car first and then there's a changeover valve to fill the air tank once it's at the desired height so you should achieve that regardless of the air tank.

Now, I have a feeling that I've seen a port on the air lines by the compressor of an earlier car that you can use to fill the system with an external compressor but that may have been something somebody had modified. It might be a good test as if you compressor is weak it could be incapable of providing enough air to overcome a leaking air spring and just run until it overheats and gives up. A rebuild for the compressor isn't difficult but it's another thing you may or may not need to do to find your main issue if that makes sense.

 

[Crankington]

Which diag have you ordered? For your suspension you're going to need to see that it is building pressure and that you're getting increased readings. I would imagine that you have a split air spring on the front and that the compressor is weak. The rear should lift first and then the front (designed that way to not dazzle people with headlights when raising). They can suffer leaks from the air tank too BUT from my understanding, the compressor will lift the car first and then there's a changeover valve to fill the air tank once it's at the desired height so you should achieve that regardless of the air tank.

Now, I have a feeling that I've seen a port on the air lines by the compressor of an earlier car that you can use to fill the system with an external compressor but that may have been something somebody had modified. It might be a good test as if you compressor is weak it could be incapable of providing enough air to overcome a leaking air spring and just run until it overheats and gives up. A rebuild for the compressor isn't difficult but it's another thing you may or may not need to do to find your main issue if that makes sense.

Will have to digest that properly a bit later, thanks a lot , the diag I was recommended by my mate was the Kingbolen EDiag Elite, seems incredible for the price, can’t wait to give it a try.

 

[kermit_rr]

Not heard of that one!

 

[Crankington]

Not heard of that one!

It’s supposed to be close to the GAP tool in capabilities… we will see, 30 day return policy, so…

 

[Crankington]

Which diag have you ordered? For your suspension you're going to need to see that it is building pressure and that you're getting increased readings. I would imagine that you have a split air spring on the front and that the compressor is weak. The rear should lift first and then the front (designed that way to not dazzle people with headlights when raising). They can suffer leaks from the air tank too BUT from my understanding, the compressor will lift the car first and then there's a changeover valve to fill the air tank once it's at the desired height so you should achieve that regardless of the air tank.

Now, I have a feeling that I've seen a port on the air lines by the compressor of an earlier car that you can use to fill the system with an external compressor but that may have been something somebody had modified. It might be a good test as if you compressor is weak it could be incapable of providing enough air to overcome a leaking air spring and just run until it overheats and gives up. A rebuild for the compressor isn't difficult but it's another thing you may or may not need to do to find your main issue if that makes sense.

We heard a hissing sound coming from the front wheel, which sounded like air leaking, long continuous sound maybe 30 sec / minute… would that be a split airbag?

 

[marjon]

The rear should lift first and then the front (designed that way to not dazzle people with headlights when raising).

Its funny you say that and I have always believed it to be the case, it is for the P38.
But. Ours will raise the front then the back then abit more and level out. I have sat and watched M leave the drive from startup from access and it lifts the front first We do have those headlights that move up and down though, adaptive, these also cycle on start up from high to normal.

But anyway back to the issue.

J

 

[Datatek]

We heard a hissing sound coming from the front wheel, which sounded like air leaking, long continuous sound maybe 30 sec / minute… would that be a split airbag?

Quite likely

 

[marjon]

Will have to digest that properly a bit later, thanks a lot , the diag I was recommended by my mate was the Kingbolen EDiag Elite, seems incredible for the price, can’t wait to give it a try.

Will be interesting to hear what it does, couldnt seem to get much detail from the website.

We heard a hissing sound coming from the front wheel, which sounded like air leaking, long continuous sound maybe 30 sec / minute… would that be a split airbag?

Probably, soapy water time me thinks . Although if you can hear it you may beable to feel/see it.
As the backs came up slowly, the tank could have been empty just raising on the compressor will be slow.
But that doesnt mean the compressor is not worn, as it must have been working overtime for the front leaks.

Try running it with the doors open so the compressor just fills the tank first, Then shut the door see if it rasies quicker.

Its not really a complicated system once you get your head around it good luck.

J

 

[ovalandrover]

a spray with soapy water will show where its leaking but if one airbag is leaking its worth fitting 4 as the others will soon follow

 

[Crankington]

Will be interesting to hear what it does, couldnt seem to get much detail from the website.


Probably, soapy water time me thinks . Although if you can hear it you may beable to feel/see it.
As the backs came up slowly, the tank could have been empty just raising on the compressor will be slow.
But that doesnt mean the compressor is not worn, as it must have been working overtime for the front leaks.

Try running it with the doors open so the compressor just fills the tank first, Then shut the door see if it rasies quicker.

Its not really a complicated system once you get your head around it good luck.

J

awesome thanks mate, will be working on it Monday, will see how I get on