Lpg

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My 3.5 Kia sorrento was converted for LPG (not landrover I know) it did save money on fuel but there was a pain in the arse factor which stopped me from using it eventually. It takes at least three times as long to fill up, my nearest LPG garage was 7 miles away, the place that serviced it was about 90 miles away and you were there for a couple of hours at least, the plastic valve cover was a pain to get off, I had to use pliers and I found in the 4 years I had it suppliers were getting fewer and fewer. Even the official list of garages selling it was out of date which is very annoying when you have detoured twenty miles to fill up. Also, around here the price per litre at the time was over 40p when everywhere else it was 34p. If I was to buy a nearly new fuel hungry vehicle which I intended to keep for 10 years, I would consider converting to LPG but otherwise I wouldn't bother.

Col
 
Hi just seen your post on lpg and have never really seen the green credentials of it, it's a bit like electric cars when you factor in the batteries and motors. Most people with lpg have good financial reasoning to support it so if that doesn't fit with your intended driving it may be greener to leave well alone, we have enough to deal with as the engines come from the factory so I'm satisfied to pay the pump price for peace of mind and drive my Range like a chauffeur, most of the time anyway. After all it is fitted with a "Dad's Taxi" badge, lol.
Tricky.
Well you should have danced all night and you wouldn't have that problem ;):D
 
I agree with Col, the price of lpg went up and up because they knew they could and there are fewer garages doing it than there was once upon a time.
When you go to fill up you find that the pump is already occupied by someone filling with real fuel.
And it takes considerably longer to fill with lpg
And you lose soooo much space in the boot
Mileage with lpg is less than with petrol so you have to fill more often and I reckon less power.
I suspect it doesnt do the engine any good but that is just a hunch and have no proof
The engine was designed to run on petrol.
Is a bit like fitting coils to my mind
Its ok if you drive zillions of miles per year and dont mind constantly looking for your next fill point.
I have had a Volvo two D1s and a classic all on lpg btw and used to fit lpg
Having said all that lots of folks love it and thats fine
 
My 2001 4.6 is on LPG,(fitted by the PO).
Couple of basic things I've found, never having had one:
A) Nowhere for the spare to go, so it's either in the boot space or ..role the dice without it.
B) Slowly running out of places that sell lpg, down here we have one shell garage and the next one is 30 miles.
C) Not much loss in power that is noticeable.
D) Needs to be serviced correctly, mine costs £120 a year and for that it's checked, new filters and certified.
E) Good for the MOT's. Drive in with the gas switched on and it has to be tested with that fuel.! Instant emmisions pass.!
 
From what i have heard LPG is nicer to engines than "real fuel".
Never really noticed any particular difference when I ran my S Type on LPG.
If I have a flat tyre I will call the AA. I really do not want to be standing on the side of a " Smart Motorway," trying to heave a Range Rover sized spare wheel around, as sleepy lorry drivers and distracted parents flash past frighteningly close to my continuously clenching anal sphincter.
Oh and it's cheaper to run on. Should have put that last bit first. More money to spend fettling my Range.
 
From what i have heard LPG is nicer to engines than "real fuel".
Never really noticed any particular difference when I ran my S Type on LPG.
If I have a flat tyre I will call the AA. I really do not want to be standing on the side of a " Smart Motorway," trying to heave a Range Rover sized spare wheel around, as sleepy lorry drivers and distracted parents flash past frighteningly close to my continuously clenching anal sphincter.
Oh and it's cheaper to run on. Should have put that last bit first. More money to spend fettling my Range.
I'm not sure it's nicer to engines, it burns hotter so has been known to burn valves hence the need for flash lube on some engines. It may also require a hotter grade of spark plug. The good thing is you don't have to worry about fuel contamination. It only makes sense if you do high mileage considering the other costs e.g installation, fewer fuel suppliers so needing to drive further to find it, servicing costs etc. For me, the most annoying thing was the time it took at the pump to refill. I could refill the petrol tank in my Kia in about 2 minutes but by the time I had faffed around getting the valve cap off and refilled the LPG tank, it was about 10 minutes or more. If I overtook a certain lorry just before I stopped for gas, I wouldn't catch up to it for about 50 miles after leaving the forecourt.

Col
 
it burns hotter so has been known to burn valves hence the need for flash lube on some engines. It may also require a hotter grade of spark plug.

LPG actually burns slower than petrol, so is still burning when the exhaust valve opens, which is why the seats burn out.

Petrol burns faster, so has finished burning by the time the exhaust valve opens, allowing a lot of heat to be soaked into the coolant, which means the exhaust valves stay cooler, as the spent gas is cooler. ;)
 
Better to keep your £2k to spend on something thats needed IMHO
I am quite shocked at the vitriol that seems to be coming my way for suggesting that LPG is an option.
I have run a V8 on LPG before and had no problems with it, therefore the opportunity to have the tank re-installed at a fraction of the cost seems to be a no brainer.
I am going to have it done and I will be honest about how my Range gets on with it. Can't say fairer than that.
 
Lots of folks really like lpg and I have no problem with that
Just as some folks convert to coils and again I have no problem with that
Just not me
I am just giving an opinion having owned a few lpg vehicles
The thread was asking an opinion and I gave mine
 
Better buckle up if you think that is vitriol!
Generally, opinions are given and knowledge is correct but some things can become a bit heated from time to time.
I think the general consensus on lpg is that there's not really anything wrong with it but you need to do a lot of miles to justify the cost.
If yours is just refitting the tank then it's probably worth it.

People are passionate about their cars on here and sometimes it gets away with them.
Some are worse than others but the vast majority on here are great and helpful people.
Don't take anything to heart, it's mostly just banter.
 
Better buckle up if you think that is vitriol!
Generally, opinions are given and knowledge is correct but some things can become a bit heated from time to time.
I think the general consensus on lpg is that there's not really anything wrong with it but you need to do a lot of miles to justify the cost.
If yours is just refitting the tank then it's probably worth it.

People are passionate about their cars on here and sometimes it gets away with them.
Some are worse than others but the vast majority on here are great and helpful people.
Don't take anything to heart, it's mostly just banter.

+1.

Looked at fitting it on my S-type but that's a lot of fuel and all business use is paid by employer.
 
I have had the LPG system reinstalled and after a couple of minor hiccoughs we are up and running. I will be honest and tell you how i get on. It worked well with my S-type but we shall see how it goes with my little darlin' Range.
I have found everyone on this forum more than helpful and look forward to continuing to gain, and you never know, perhaps one day contribute to the general font of knowledge.
 
I have had the LPG system reinstalled and after a couple of minor hiccoughs we are up and running. I will be honest and tell you how i get on. It worked well with my S-type but we shall see how it goes with my little darlin' Range.
I have found everyone on this forum more than helpful and look forward to continuing to gain, and you never know, perhaps one day contribute to the general font of knowledge.

On the Jag forums they all reckon Flashlube required to protect the valve seats but Wazzajnr reckons he's done loads of miles without it and no issues. Of course, a sample size of 1 so maybe he got lucky but I doubt anyone has compared with decent numbers.
 
I've heard some LPG users recommend that you run on petrol for a hundred miles or so after every 2nd refill of LPG to help lubricate the valves. Dunno if this is true but I would run my Kia on petrol every so often.

Col
 
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