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[rob1miles]

Agreed, I like camper conversions and mine is tax and MOT exempt, but it runs on a 1970 chassis and running gear, leaf springs, drum brakes, manual steering. Calling a coil sprung, auto box disc braked half Defender a tax exempt series is not the same and it will spoil it for people like me, that's why I get annoyed. Stick it on Q plate and I'm happy.

 

[Bobsticle]

What a lot of old ladies
Every time
As long as it's not stolen build what you like,that's what owning old land rovers has always been about.

And probably how we will all lose the right to own them.

 

[Rodeo Joe]

@Chopz
If he’s built this it does not qualify for exempt status.

That’s the main problem here

Totally agree, you can build what you like but if you try it on like this then eventually it'll screw it up for the rest of us.

 

[Rodeo Joe]

What a lot of old ladies
Every time
As long as it's not stolen build what you like,that's what owning old land rovers has always been about.

You're missing the point.

 

[dag019]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283558631850?ViewItem=&item=283558631850

relisted with a new starting price!

There should be a way of reporting the dodgey tax/mot exemptions to someone who cares and will do something. Currently no one can be bothered!

 

[Hicap phill]

I believe that to be tax exempt etc it should be inspected.
Previous mots show the same faults so it’s not well looked after.
I can’t even register a 2B import until its built & then DVLA come round to inspect it.

 

[dag019]

I believe that to be tax exempt etc it should be inspected.

I was under the understanding that once it is old enough you just sent in the application and it was automatic that they changed the mot and tax class to exempt.

 

[Hicap phill]

Yes you do it all your self but I was trying to make a point of the GOV doing inspections.
See how many motors would be ok then

 

[Si Click]

I'm still trying to work out what an automatic transfer box is.
It's got an LT77 so it's not an auto.

 

[Hicap phill]

@Si Click Could be early Borg transfer box.
These lock up with no diff lock levers/buttons
Fitted to RR classic 1.2 ratio

 

[Galladog]

I just asked the seller if they have informed the DVLA about the changes to the drive train, awaiting an answer.

 

[suburban]

bet it is on sorn because he doesn't want to make the not modified statement, leave it for the new buyer then they will have to tax it.

Looks ok for a camper conversion but as said, call a spade a spade, it shouldn't be exempt, assuming the conversion was done after that date whenever it is 1998?

 

[suburban]

just looked it up, conversion to camper would need to be before 1998 and the new sva test, no idea when the 300tdi was introduced but i'm sure it was post '98

 

[Rodeo Joe]

just looked it up, conversion to camper would need to be before 1998 and the new sva test, no idea when the 300tdi was introduced but i'm sure it was post '98

Why does it need to be before 1998? I've obviously missed something can you please explain.
Cheers

 

[suburban]

unless things have changed modifications carried out prior to the introduction of the new sva test in 1998 don't count afaik. how rigorous the procedure for proving they were done before 1998 is I don't know.

http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/vosalaw.htm

 

[Rodeo Joe]

Ah ok thanks for the link.

 

[Chopz]

Everyone knows hybrid land rovers are being built, that's the great thing about old land rovers you can build it yourself.
It's not being done for any reason apart from building something you want
Noone is interested in the pieces of Land Rover bolted together apart from some people
As for road tax, the amount of none paying road tax hybrids is so tiny its not worth the effort of checking every vehicle
I don't work for the government, let's be safe and be individuals

 

[suburban]

I should clarify the glencoyne site relates just to ved exemption I think, mot exemption is different, not sure the 1998 rule applies.

more than happy to be corrected or updated by anyone more knowledgeable

 

[rob1miles]

When i spoke to the DVLA about my own camper conversion their reply was that uniquely for Land Rovers they do not consider changes of body style, this is because the bodies are fully demountable and changes can be reversed. They no longer use catergories such as truck, station wagon (or camper) for Land Rovers and now only offer "utility 4x4" which is what I ended up with (better then "truck" which is what it was). The issue is the post 1998 rules for "points" which give us (in the UK) freedom from EU type rules and allow modifications. If the points system gets abused to allow modern vehicles to avoid tax and MOTs, or conceal stolen vehicles, we will loose it and the alterntive will be type approval and no mods unless on a Q plate, something I don't want.

 

[discomania]

I have just asked him what chassis it is on.

Oddly enough, no answer!

I wonder, what was that,? A 300tdi Defender with some S3 bits?