Td5 HEAVY smoker?
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No, runs fine but makes a low ticking noise.
clutchdust
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Probably is the turbo now you fool!!!!! It won't last 5 minutes with the oil feed plugged
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4l in 30 sec, use your calculator.
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skäggo;358565 said:
Dont be pedantic, if the turbo is starved of oil; it packs up, is the point being made. When the turbo went pop on my fourtrak, it billowed smoke and used all the oil.
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If ur loosing all ur engine oil at an accelerated rate. Then it is probably been consumed by the engine. There is a proper name for this but me brains knacked so I can't remember what it is.
Yeas of course, thats why my first thought went to the turbo. And thats why i plugged it ( for about 5 sec on idle) and if it was the turbo it wouldnt matter.
But now i know its not the turbo and wanted to come in contact with anyone that experienced the same problem.
On older engine the headgasket could rip open around the pressure feed hole to the cylinderhead. But in every engine i seen the last decade the gaskets are reinforced with metalic rings or ecual around the holes.
Are there anyome that had problems loosing oil thru the headgasket?
Yes the engine sucks the oil but it doesent raise the idle so either its only one cylinder getting it ore its thru the pistons. BUT i cant see how it could burn that much oil thru the piston rings. And if a piston was blown/hollow it would push air into the oilbreather. Thats why im pussled, that it can suck oil are not why im concerned its where its getting it from.
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if yer turbo has a feed pipe it would also have a return, so are you plugging them both or just the feed? and is there blue smoke belchin oot the back?
As staded it was the feeder that i plugged, and its blue smoke as its oil that its consuming.
It wouldnt make sence to plug the return if it doesent get any oil and if one would only plugg the return then it would for sure push oil thru the turbo.
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you don't think that maybe if yer turbo wur gubbed it could possibly suck oil up the outlet??
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4 liters in 30 seconds?? Are you sure? did you make sure the oil doesn't get in the cooling system? This is more than the rate you can put it back in, normal ways in mean ...
Tell us more about how did it all start or how did you get to find this oil absence from you sump, the whole story.
The proper way to test if the oil isn't going the turbo way is buy taking out one of hoses from the intercooler and see what's coming through, not by letting the turbo without lubrication. This way you can check the intercooler too and see if there's oil in it (so much that it can be drained). It would also stop the blue smoke on the exhaust.
Well, 5 secs with engine on idle can't harm the bearings so much ... i guess.
Some thoughts:
- the engine doesn't burn the oil; at least not most of it; it takes about 2-3 l/hour of fuel to run the engine on idle; at a 4l/30 secs rate of oil consumtion, which is 480 l/h, that engine would have been blown up by now (or at least you couldn't have been able to stop it by turning off the ignition key, that is cutting the fuel supply).
- if the oil gets in the cylinder (at this rate) and not burning this means it would have had the same effect as when the engine sucks water (when wading), the oil can't be compressed; so, if this is case, some noises can be heard and the compression is lost in that cylinder, conrod bent and so on (the engine hydraulicked on oil)
- if the piston is blown there's no effect on the breather, it can't push anything, so don't rule this out, although it can't push so much oil either.
I would run a cylinder compression test if i were you and go from there.
Tell us more about how did it all start or how did you get to find this oil absence from you sump, the whole story.
The proper way to test if the oil isn't going the turbo way is buy taking out one of hoses from the intercooler and see what's coming through, not by letting the turbo without lubrication. This way you can check the intercooler too and see if there's oil in it (so much that it can be drained). It would also stop the blue smoke on the exhaust.
Well, 5 secs with engine on idle can't harm the bearings so much ... i guess.
Some thoughts:
- the engine doesn't burn the oil; at least not most of it; it takes about 2-3 l/hour of fuel to run the engine on idle; at a 4l/30 secs rate of oil consumtion, which is 480 l/h, that engine would have been blown up by now (or at least you couldn't have been able to stop it by turning off the ignition key, that is cutting the fuel supply).
- if the oil gets in the cylinder (at this rate) and not burning this means it would have had the same effect as when the engine sucks water (when wading), the oil can't be compressed; so, if this is case, some noises can be heard and the compression is lost in that cylinder, conrod bent and so on (the engine hydraulicked on oil)
- if the piston is blown there's no effect on the breather, it can't push anything, so don't rule this out, although it can't push so much oil either.
I would run a cylinder compression test if i were you and go from there.
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there have bin threads on here about folk whos engine has emptied the sump in about a min with no sign of hydraulicking. usually while driving and its all bin down to the turbo sucking it up and pushing it through the engine. so it can happen if we are to believe those that say it has happened to them .
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The oil passing the turbo way is unlikely to cause hydraulicking but I was referring (and I didn't say it, oops) to the oil passing the gasket way he was asking about (or the cracked head way).
It's easy to rule out the turbo. If it doesn't go the fresh air way nor the exhaust way (or he needs to check that too) then something's wrong with the engine.
It's easy to rule out the turbo. If it doesn't go the fresh air way nor the exhaust way (or he needs to check that too) then something's wrong with the engine.
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didnt Clutchy post a video (of a Hippoo) that sprayed oil about 20feet out of the dipstick when the sump became pressurised? - that was a doozil, but I cant remember why it did it.
No. the outlet sits about 10 cm over the sump.
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am guessin here.. yer oil is somehow getting from sump to combustion chamber and at the rate your saying about the only way it can would be throu the turbo.
if you say you have blocked the inlet then that only leaves the outlet and as mr holmes sed " How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? "
don't fer get that oil is the sump isn't at any kinda level when injun is running. its being splashed about and dribbled down from up top..
if you say you have blocked the inlet then that only leaves the outlet and as mr holmes sed " How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? "
don't fer get that oil is the sump isn't at any kinda level when injun is running. its being splashed about and dribbled down from up top..
No oil in coolingsystem, either pressure in coolingsystem. 4l in 30 sec is only an assumtion, it went from full to under the dipstic in about 15-25 sec.
When I bought the car it was this way, and ofcourse no one can give any real way how it started.
It seems as if the oil goes in with the pressure of the pump, thats why i plugged the turbo.
And beleave me if it gets in the cylinder it burns, there arent many cars smoking that rich, its when a headgaskets get blown on high rpm and the antifreece gets in(only wrong color and smell)
