What colour cable for sidelight feed - carling switch?

[huffhuff]

Hi all,

Just getting around to fitting some bits and bobs. I've wired up a rear work light, fitted the Raptor dash and have come to wire the carling illuminated rocker switch (simple on/off with LED). It is currently switching the rear work light as it should, but the switch itself isn't illuminating.

The wiring diagram says it needs a sidelight feed in. Will I be lucky enough to find a spare one in the main loom? What colour cable should I be looking for?

Also, when/if I do, can I daisy chain this to the next switch?

Thanks in advance, did try a search but didn't find anything specific...

Ta

Currently, only got live in, live out and earth on the switch.

 

[FlyingPete]

Switch/gauge illumination is most likely the one you're after. It should be a red wire with white stripe. There shouldn't be any issues with piggy-backing off an existing connection for this application.

 

[huffhuff]

Switch/gauge illumination is most likely the one you're after. It should be a red wire with white stripe. There shouldn't be any issues with piggy-backing off an existing connection for this application.

Excrement, thank you Will go and have a looksy now

Ta

 

[bankz5152]

Hmm on my TD5 its red and orange. Get the rear wiper switch, afaik it should only have 3 wires in, which ever one aint red or black!

 

[huffhuff]

Hmm on my TD5 its red and orange. Get the rear wiper switch, afaik it should only have 3 wires in, which ever one aint red or black!

Ahh, makes more sense. I just had look and don't have a red with white stripe on any of the loom by fusebox. Will give red/orange a tap...

Cheers

 

[bankz5152]

Makes life easier if you have a multi meter

 

[huffhuff]

Makes life easier if you have a multi meter

Well, I do have a multimeter. But would rather stick to convention and tap into the right wire I've just had a big kerfuffle on a job where somebody extended a cable but used a different colour (which is used for something completely different). Lots of headaches



Also, type two lines and ask on here or faff around with the multimeter, trying all the different coloured cables whilst flipping the lights on and off. I don't have crocodile clip ends and the pokey bits never stay where I want them. Plus doing it in confined space, blah blah blah

 

[bankz5152]

Haha i know the feeling, just fitted a new dash to mine with carling switches. Still not 100% but works good enough!

Find the red/orange wire turn jam the meter in and check. Easiest way.

Let me know if you get the red slit 'on' illumination working on all switches. Ive only managed on a handful...

 

[huffhuff]

How weird is this, a million to one!

I took the faceplate off the raptor dash, and noticed the switch backlight was already on?!? At first I thought it was a trick of the light, but nope, the light was on. Bear in mind i've taken the panel off to try and find a red/orange cable to plug in and get the light working.

Turns out, moving the panel knocked a random wire. That random single wire not only was a red/orange cable, but a crimp had obviously broken in there previously. That left the end exposed, which just so happened to fall on pin 8 of the damn switch! UNBELIEVABLE.

End result, the LED backlight is on regardless of switch position. The slit is not on. When I turn my lights on...the LED backlight goes off! I'll try and find a wiring diagram for the switch.

Then my 12 week baby turned up at work for a surprise visit so I left it like that for now. Will investigate in a bit.

 

[bankz5152]

Thats insane! Odd though!

Half my switches when turned on the red slit turns off, when the switch is off the red slit is on

 

[huffhuff]

I've just had another look. I can get the slit on when it should be, but not the main LED.

I've also only just noticed mine are fake carling switches I think, here they are

 

[bankz5152]

Hmmm odd. If they are fake then working from a carling diagram wont help as the pins will be different mainly the earths etc.. Did they have a small plastic rod protruding from.the center?

 

[huffhuff]

I've gone with the above diagram for wiring.

Yes, plastic rod but not quite centre.

 

[bankz5152]

Yeah they will be the same as RDX K switches, ive got a diagram at home ill take a pic and post it up for you. The earths and sidelight feed are different pins.

 

[huffhuff]

Yeah they will be the same as RDX K switches, ive got a diagram at home ill take a pic and post it up for you. The earths and sidelight feed are different pins.

Splendid. Thank you

...what's the plastic pole for?!? Just injection mould thingy?!?

 

[bankz5152]

no worries just went through jt so I know its a pain!

Nah its for connector blocks. Check bolt on bits on ebay they do em for a few ££ each

 

[FlyingPete]

Based on the diagrams- switch illumination should be by terminals 6(to gauge lights) and 7(ground). 2 is the power input, 3 is the output. If terminal 8 is also grounded, another light should come on when the switch is on.

The only sure-fire way to figure out what the terminals do is to get at it with a multimeter and 12v supply. You can figure out which terminals are connected together in each position, and which terminals are inputs for the lights.

 

[huffhuff]

Based on the diagrams- switch illumination should be by terminals 6(to gauge lights) and 7(ground). 2 is the power input, 3 is the output. If terminal 8 is also grounded, another light should come on when the switch is on.

The only sure-fire way to figure out what the terminals do is to get at it with a multimeter and 12v supply. You can figure out which terminals are connected together in each position, and which terminals are inputs for the lights.

Bingo bango!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DwXdEkRjbo

Thanks to all concerned

 

[bankz5152]

Just about to post up pics! Haha

 

[huffhuff]

Just about to post up pics! Haha

Well thank you anyway