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landyboots

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Sold my Black Beauty today......Heartbroken to watch the new owners take her away. It felt like a son or daughter emigrating to greener pastures. She was a 2000 my DSE in Java Black with no faults. Air suspension was removed. Very clean inside and out with shining paintwork and only 134000 miles on her so was just about broken in.....I let it go for £1300 because they are worth #### all over here in Ireland..... Road tax is £1000 annually and really hits hard with fuel prices as high as they are.......Someday I will return to P38 ownership. I love them and think they are the greatest cars in the world....Even though they can be a right pain in the arse at times.....:hurt:
 
Yes, I've driven one on air before and there is no comparison....but with the running costs including the robbery of fuel and tax, the less that can go wrong,the better......It's £2000 to tax a 4.6 petrol by the way......the legacy of the green party who dabbled with governance over here for a couple of years.....Evil nasty things those range rovers. Let's tax them off the roads.
 
landyboots said:
Yes, I've driven one on air before and there is no comparison....but with the running costs including the robbery of fuel and tax, the less that can go wrong,the better......It's £2000 to tax a 4.6 petrol by the way......the legacy of the green party who dabbled with governance over here for a couple of years.....Evil nasty things those range rovers. Let's tax them off the roads.
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Beats me as to why so many jump into RR ownership and squeal like a stuck pig after they start putting tax in the window and fuel in the tank.
If you want to beat the system get a pushbike :rolleyes:

The Celtic tiger is dead, and my guess is there will be many more Irish owners getting shot now the loophole in the road tax system has been closed off out there
 
Thebest4x4byfar said:
Beats me as to why so many jump into RR ownership and squeal like a stuck pig after they start putting tax in the window and fuel in the tank.
If you want to beat the system get a pushbike :rolleyes:

The Celtic tiger is dead, and my guess is there will be many more Irish owners getting shot now the loophole in the road tax system has been closed off out there
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Yes, but my legs are not up to towing an 1800 kg tin tent with a push bike:)
 
How on earth does anyone afford such high car tax in Ireland?
My cousin just moved there last month from England and took three cars with them, they'll be bankrupt this time next year!:crazy:
 
Lisbeth said:
How on earth does anyone afford such high car tax in Ireland?
My cousin just moved there last month from England and took three cars with them, they'll be bankrupt this time next year!:crazy:
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Perhaps the Government are trying to recoup some of the money they lost with all the black money that was floating about in years gone by:)
 
Thebest4x4byfar said:


Beats me as to why so many jump into RR ownership and squeal like a stuck pig after they start putting tax in the window and fuel in the tank.
If you want to beat the system get a pushbike :rolleyes:

The Celtic tiger is dead, and my guess is there will be many more Irish owners getting shot now the loophole in the road tax system has been closed off out there
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I disagree with you in that fuel is a global thing that is beyond our control but we can decide when we want to use it and don't need it when the car is parked up on private property but the road tax issue is not and is the easy target for our political self serving scumbags. It doesn't matter to them if your range rover is parked up or on the road, you still have to have at least 3 months in the windscreen and you might not ever use it. Bring back the old system of road tax on the fuel. That way the user pays.....

By the way, the Celtic tiger never happened. It was all just a myth based on credit and a property bubble that everyone knew was going to burst but didn't give a toss......
 
landyboots said:
Tell your cousin to keep their UK address and keep taxing them over there......
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Bad Advice :

If you bring a vehicle into Ireland from abroad you must register it and pay VRT. An appointment to have your vehicle inspected at an NCT centre must be made within 7 days of the vehicle entering the State in order to register and pay the VRT (and any other tax liabilities due on the vehicle). You must then complete the registration process within 30 days of arriving in the State.

Please be advised that if you do not complete your registration process within the 30 day period then an additional assessment of VRT maybe raised for the period the vehicle remained unregistered in the State. In this regard, you are advised to retain possession of the documentation relating to the shipping or storage of the vehicle where the date of the invoice is more than 30 days earlier than the date of registration. It should be noted that an unregistered vehicle may be detained or seized by Revenue Officials or by An Garda Siochana.
 
What I meant was if the person involved maintains a UK address and moves back and forward between juristictions, well then they are perfectly entitled to keep the UK plate and the tax benefits.....That's the way it used to be anyway. European law....free movement and all that....Although the Irish government are pretty good at ignoring European law as demonstrated with said VRT and the recent property tax and forcing people to make declarations......
 
Thebest4x4byfar said:
Bad Advice :

If you bring a vehicle into Ireland from abroad you must register it and pay VRT. An appointment to have your vehicle inspected at an NCT centre must be made within 7 days of the vehicle entering the State in order to register and pay the VRT (and any other tax liabilities due on the vehicle). You must then complete the registration process within 30 days of arriving in the State.

Please be advised that if you do not complete your registration process within the 30 day period then an additional assessment of VRT maybe raised for the period the vehicle remained unregistered in the State. In this regard, you are advised to retain possession of the documentation relating to the shipping or storage of the vehicle where the date of the invoice is more than 30 days earlier than the date of registration. It should be noted that an unregistered vehicle may be detained or seized by Revenue Officials or by An Garda Siochana.
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landyboots said:
What I meant was if the person involved maintains a UK address and moves back and forward between juristictions, well then they are perfectly entitled to keep the UK plate and the tax benefits.....That's the way it used to be anyway. European law....free movement and all that....Although the Irish government are pretty good at ignoring European law as demonstrated with said VRT and the recent property tax and forcing people to make declarations......
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:behindsofa:
Moved over to Ireland in 2000 to work and lived there until June 2012.
I had a P38, 4.6 HSE and a Vectra 2.5, V6 which we took with us and kept on UK plates all of that time. Both cars had cherished reg. numbers and were conspicuous. They were MOT'd every year in the UK, taxed and insured. We lived in a small town and were well known. Whilst we were working we travelled the same route along main roads and motorway to Leixlip, just outside Dublin. In all of that time we were never stopped regarding the UK plates. Indeed when the Guards had a routine roadside check in operation as soon as they saw the plates they waved us through and stopped those driving with Irish plates !! We probably made on average, 4 trips a year from Dublin to Holyhead with Irish Ferries or Stena and were never questioned.
The "Dodge" over there is to import a large 4x4, rip the rear seats out, blank the side windows and register it as a "Commercial"...if it was a V8 the road tax was a fixed rate, the same as an Escort van...around €165/year from memory !!
With the amount of tax they charge, the roads should be superb and toll free.
:p
 
Irishrover said:
:behindsofa:
Moved over to Ireland in 2000 to work and lived there until June 2012.
I had a P38, 4.6 HSE and a Vectra 2.5, V6 which we took with us and kept on UK plates all of that time. Both cars had cherished reg. numbers and were conspicuous. They were MOT'd every year in the UK, taxed and insured. We lived in a small town and were well known. Whilst we were working we travelled the same route along main roads and motorway to Leixlip, just outside Dublin. In all of that time we were never stopped regarding the UK plates. Indeed when the Guards had a routine roadside check in operation as soon as they saw the plates they waved us through and stopped those driving with Irish plates !! We probably made on average, 4 trips a year from Dublin to Holyhead with Irish Ferries or Stena and were never questioned.
The "Dodge" over there is to import a large 4x4, rip the rear seats out, blank the side windows and register it as a "Commercial"...if it was a V8 the road tax was a fixed rate, the same as an Escort van...around €165/year from memory !!
With the amount of tax they charge, the roads should be superb and toll free.
:p
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That was an age ago Irishrover.....Things have really moved on now. There is all sorts of hurdles to jump to get the commercial tax rate which is now 330 euro p.a. Basically, if you can't prove that you run a business, or that you are vat registered, you wont get the commercial tax.....even if you drive a van. You have to tax them privately now which is the full £1000 for the DSE. The Garda are actually pulling crew cab drivers at weekends if they suspect they are carrying their wife/kids outside of normal business hours and the vehicle is taxed as commercial. I even knew a chap that was pulled while on his way to a weekend canoeing event in his commercial Disco with said canoe mounted on the roof. They took the Disco from him because they said he was using it for private/leisure use and he had to go and tax it privately to get it back. He could have been done for thousands if the Disco had of been converted to commercial on import as it would have been declared as commercial on first registration and would have been VRT'ed at the commercial rate of 50 euro and because he was caught using it privately, the VRT liability would then have jumped retrospectively to 28% + VAT at 21% of the new book price.....PHEW!!!!!
 
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MrGorsky said:
£1000 a year? Jeyzus.

What possible justification can there be for such high road tax?
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Because Ireland has so many thousands of miles of road that are all in far better condition than the UK... no wait, that isn't it. Greedy politicians looking to give themselves a better wage? Yes, that sounds about right... sorry, I mean "green" taxes.
 
Agreed Landyboots....all a myth, am sorry to say but the Republics politicians let the population down very badly, why they've never been held to account is down to the people. So unfortunately self inflicted.

Its always been a "closed" shop type set up many many levels, dissappointing.

Anyways, though if you emigrated to RoI from another EU country and didn't sell your EU bought car in the first 12 mths you were exempt from VRT?

£2000........thats more like a punitive fine......facists!

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