P38A Aircon for this dummy

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oakey

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Nanocom says aircon clutch not engaging
Looking at the pump with engine running the belt makes the pulley on pump spin just fine but the disc thing on the very front of the pulley does not yurn
Should it?
 
the early P38s drive the AC clutch directly from the HEVAC (through the safety pressure switches). It monitors the current drawn when the clutch is engaged. No gas will open the pressure switch thus cut off the clutch - raising a fault.

The outermost portion of the pulley should engage.

Do you have the book on your HVAC panel?
 
HEVAC to LO...In the first minute or two after ignition (and before the service book comes on) is the clutch plate magnetic (ie touch it (safely) with a spanner, to see)..If yes, then the clutch is contaminated or needs re-gapping. If no - engine off - unplug the round connector at the compressor - put 12 volts (or a regular 9v battery) across the terminals - does the clutch a. magnetise and/ or b. engage ? If you have a clamp meter, the clutch will draw about 3A when engaged ( i think i measured that using the 9v battery). If no, then compressor (or at least, the clutch) may be at fault.
If yes, then get the nano and check that HEVAC is issuing a/c request to the ECM (12v line, but active low), and that ECM is returning an a/c grant to the HEVAC (5v line but active low) - without those the HEVAC will not send 12v to the clutch (or relay, if you have a relay harness fitted). It's also pretty quick to do a continuity check from the RH footwell to the compressor (if you have no relay harness fitted) which would help eliminate i. low/ no gas ii. a dodgy pressure switch and iii a line break.

Next step wd be to pull the HEVAC ECU and start testing pins, but if you have a nano and trust that then you may be able to avoid that but if/ when you do pull it, note the serial of the ECU fitted.
 
Tested clutch today
Aircon set to cold
Cold engine
Started her up and the front of the pump (the bit that doesnt spin) was not magnetised
 
Behind the kick panel there is a large white connector that often gets corroded. Depending on which pins this can stop the clutch engaging. In a LHD car it is the passengers footwell, not sure how that translates to RHD.

As for equipment to service a system, you need a Guage set with adapters that will connect it to the P38, and a vacuum pump. You also need a can tap valve to go on the can of R134A that will connect to the center hose of your Guage set. Vacuum for 4 hours and then fill with proper weight of gas.
 
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