Wings and Spot Welding

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Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not , what
are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body
with wings already fitted?

thanks in advance


 
Landy Man wrote:
> Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not , what
> are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body
> with wings already fitted?

What sort of vehicle?


--
EMB
 
Landy Man wrote:

> Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not ,
> what
> are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body
> with wings already fitted?
>
> thanks in advance

It would help if we knew what sort of Landrover you are talking about. But
assuming you are talking about the Series and 90/110/Defender, which all
use the same construction - the wing side panels are spot welded to a right
angle piece which is held to the bulkhead by several large hex head screws
going into speednuts on the bulkhead. These are accessible from under the
wing.
JD

 
> It would help if we knew what sort of Landrover you are talking about. But
> assuming you are talking about the Series and 90/110/Defender, which all
> use the same construction - the wing side panels are spot welded to a
> right
> angle piece which is held to the bulkhead by several large hex head screws
> going into speednuts on the bulkhead. These are accessible from under the
> wing.

MY BAD... and apologies...DUH. Yes, it a petrol 1975 Series III 109" RHD.
Thanks for the info - whew, that's a relief its not welded to the bulkhead.

regards, Oz


 
Landy Man wrote:
>
> MY BAD... and apologies...DUH. Yes, it a petrol 1975 Series III 109" RHD.
> Thanks for the info - whew, that's a relief its not welded to the bulkhead.

Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course.


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EMB
 
> Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course.

This company http://www.muggyweld.com has a rod with this claim:

Super Alloy 1 is a multi-metal, low temperature solder with a melting point
of 350o. Its unique properties allow you to join copper, aluminum, brass,
pot metal, white metal, zinc die cast, stainless, galvanized, pewter and
steel in any combination. This rod allows you to join metals such as steel
to aluminum, which welding instructors are STILL teaching can't be done.


 
Landy Man wrote:
>> Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course.
>
> This company http://www.muggyweld.com has a rod with this claim:
>
> Super Alloy 1 is a multi-metal, low temperature solder with a melting point
> of 350o. Its unique properties allow you to join copper, aluminum, brass,
> pot metal, white metal, zinc die cast, stainless, galvanized, pewter and
> steel in any combination. This rod allows you to join metals such as steel
> to aluminum, which welding instructors are STILL teaching can't be done.

The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items
together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure
together so they become one contiguous item.


--
EMB
 
> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items
> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure
> together so they become one contiguous item.

I think the word here is PEDANTIC

;)


 
Landy Man wrote:
>> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items
>> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure
>> together so they become one contiguous item.
>
> I think the word here is PEDANTIC
>
> ;)
>
>
Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals have
been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere near as
resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or ornamental stuff in
most cases.

--
Karen

"Reverse the polarity and invert the particle flux!"
"You mean put the batteries in the other way?"
"...yes."
-Star Trek (any of them)
 
> Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals
> have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere near
> as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or ornamental
> stuff in most cases.


yes , you're both right. I'm sorry


 
Landy Man wrote:

> I think the word here is PEDANTIC
>
> ;)

Probably :)

When your chassis needs rust repairs let me solder it up for you - I'm
sure the result will be suitably strong and durable for it's intended
purpose.


--
EMB
 
Duracell Bunny wrote:

> Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals
> have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere
> near as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or
> ornamental stuff in most cases.

Thanks babe - I should have guessed you'd be along to support me in due
course. :)


--
EMB
 
Landy Man wrote:
>
> yes , you're both right. I'm sorry

No problem. Everyone is entitled to their point of view, it's just that
some of us have formed ours through years of performing the task in
question. If there's any more information you need don't hesitate to ask.


--
EMB
 

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Landy Man wrote:
>
> > I think the word here is PEDANTIC
> >
> > ;)
>
> Probably :)
>
> When your chassis needs rust repairs let me solder it up for you - I'm
> sure the result will be suitably strong and durable for it's intended
> purpose.
>
>
Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then quote
all the technical crap?

Martin


 
EMB wrote:

|| Duracell Bunny wrote:
||
||| Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most
||| metals have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long
||| time. Nowhere near as resilient as welding, only good for temporary
||| repairs or ornamental stuff in most cases.
||
|| Thanks babe - I should have guessed you'd be along to support me in
|| due course. :)
||
||
|| --
|| EMB

This sort of stuff belongs in alt.mutual.appreciation.society, not here :)

--
Rich
==============================

Take out the obvious to email me.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
>
> This sort of stuff belongs in alt.mutual.appreciation.society, not here :)
>
Do I detect an air of jealousy? :)

--
EMB
 
EMB wrote:
> Duracell Bunny wrote:
>
>> Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most
>> metals have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time.
>> Nowhere near as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs
>> or ornamental stuff in most cases.
>
> Thanks babe - I should have guessed you'd be along to support me in due
> course. :)
>
>
As usual, kind Sir, I'm flattered :)

We colonials must stick together.

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird
 
On or around Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:18:31 GMT, "Landy Man"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items
>> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure
>> together so they become one contiguous item.
>
>I think the word here is PEDANTIC

not really. Soldering is only ever as strong as the "glue". you can join
steel, for example, by bronze welding, i.e. a fillet of bronze which is
stuck to both of 2 bits of steel. However, it's only as strong as the
bronze filler.

Welding, properly done, can approach the same strength as the original
material, although most often it isn't.

You could stick alloy to steel with silicone sealer. The joint, however,
wouldn't be one you'd want to trust your life to.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell"
Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military
Academy, 19 June 1879.
 
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